Waterfall

Photo_Hunter · 24th of May 2011 (Tue)

Heres a shot of a waterfall I took today. I'm just new to taking landscape shots, I'm a bit disappointed at the blown sky area in the middle area of the photo at the top..

Iso 100, F22, Sh 5.2sec

Any offer suggestions on how to fix this in photoshop, I've tried the selective colour option, but it doesn't improve things that much...

Thanks

bly2k · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

If it were me, I'd probably just clone the vegetation over the white sky. Much easier and it will look better too.

Dr Lazarus · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

Try and go back later in the day or when it's bright but overcast.

Dr Lazarus · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

and/or use a split neutral density filter.

Photo_Hunter · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

I used a ND8 filter as I couldn't get the shutter speed slow enough, I also used spot metering... I should have shot in raw also but had my cam set to jpg only ...

billshack · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

Otherwise nice image. Nice waterfall. Where is this? Wonder how a polarizer would work with that ND8?
Also, if you have lightroom my guess is you can mask that area and use a preset to get that sky blue. Search for free presets as well there are many out there that can fix that.

Photo_Hunter · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

Thanks guys any tips would be great, This is shot just outside of Richmond in North Yorkshire, UK.
If I had to do the same shot again how would I prevent the sky being blown out, use different metering mode, or recompose the shot , or just underexpose some of the shots?

billshack · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

perhaps an even stronger ND or as i suggested you can try a polarizer to add contrast but not sure how a polarizer combined with an ND would work.

Oh.. i think you can buy a graduated ND filter. Maybe darker on the upper half..

or take two pics. One normal exposure or even under exposed and then take your 2nd shot with the ND and use photoshop to layer them. Then bring out the darker sky with a mask.

Photo_Hunter · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

Quote:

Originally Posted by billshack

perhaps an even stronger ND or as i suggested you can try
or take two pics. One normal exposure or even under exposed and then take your 2nd shot with the ND and use photoshop to layer them. Then bring out the darker sky with a mask.

Thats what I plan on doing next time bill and I'll be using raw also..

Thanks

GoneTomorrow · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

Definitely shoot RAW as you gain a stop or two of dynamic range, which well help with the blown sky. Also go back when the sun is angled the side or behind you. And you should get a darker ND filter than a 3-stop, which will help to avoid using such narrow apertures (lot of softness from diffraction). I use a 6-stop and find it not dark enough sometimes.

Dr Lazarus · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

The split/graduated ND will allow you to darken just the sky area. Very handy purchase if you plan on doing a lot of landscape work.

Harm · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

as well as the graduated/hard ND, you could also use a graduated filter in Lightroom too. That could save some sky...

HrcRacing · 25th of May 2011 (Wed)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Lazarus

The split/graduated ND will allow you to darken just the sky area. Very handy purchase if you plan on doing a lot of landscape work.

To support the good Doctor's statements.

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#2
bly2k Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Central NJ Posts: 170	Re: Waterfall If it were me, I'd probably just clone the vegetation over the white sky. Much easier and it will look better too.

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#3
Dr Lazarus Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 634	Re: Waterfall Try and go back later in the day or when it's bright but overcast.

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#4
Dr Lazarus Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 634	Re: Waterfall and/or use a split neutral density filter.

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#5
Photo_Hunter Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 16	Re: Waterfall I used a ND8 filter as I couldn't get the shutter speed slow enough, I also used spot metering... I should have shot in raw also but had my cam set to jpg only ...

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#6
billshack Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Srn Illinois (near St Louis) Posts: 151	Re: Waterfall Otherwise nice image. Nice waterfall. Where is this? Wonder how a polarizer would work with that ND8? Also, if you have lightroom my guess is you can mask that area and use a preset to get that sky blue. Search for free presets as well there are many out there that can fix that. __________________ Canon 5D Mark II \| Canon 7D Canon EF 70-200mm IS F2.8L \| Canon EF100-400mm f4.5-5.6L \| Canon EF 24-105mm f4L \| Canon EF50mm f/1.4 Canon 85mm F/1.8 \| Sigma 24-60mm f2.8 \| Sigma 12-24mm F4.5 - 5.6 www.customsportphotos.com Last edited by billshack : 25th of May 2011 (Wed) at 09:10.

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#7
Photo_Hunter Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 16	Re: Waterfall Thanks guys any tips would be great, This is shot just outside of Richmond in North Yorkshire, UK. If I had to do the same shot again how would I prevent the sky being blown out, use different metering mode, or recompose the shot , or just underexpose some of the shots?

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#8
billshack Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Srn Illinois (near St Louis) Posts: 151	Re: Waterfall perhaps an even stronger ND or as i suggested you can try a polarizer to add contrast but not sure how a polarizer combined with an ND would work. Oh.. i think you can buy a graduated ND filter. Maybe darker on the upper half.. or take two pics. One normal exposure or even under exposed and then take your 2nd shot with the ND and use photoshop to layer them. Then bring out the darker sky with a mask. __________________ Canon 5D Mark II \| Canon 7D Canon EF 70-200mm IS F2.8L \| Canon EF100-400mm f4.5-5.6L \| Canon EF 24-105mm f4L \| Canon EF50mm f/1.4 Canon 85mm F/1.8 \| Sigma 24-60mm f2.8 \| Sigma 12-24mm F4.5 - 5.6 www.customsportphotos.com

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#10
GoneTomorrow Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 1,125 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Waterfall Definitely shoot RAW as you gain a stop or two of dynamic range, which well help with the blown sky. Also go back when the sun is angled the side or behind you. And you should get a darker ND filter than a 3-stop, which will help to avoid using such narrow apertures (lot of softness from diffraction). I use a 6-stop and find it not dark enough sometimes. __________________ Canon 5D Mk II (35/1.4L \| 24-70/2.8L \| 135/2L \| Euro Nifty \| 430EX II \| Gitzo G1125 + 494RC2) flickr I bought a new camera. It's very advanced - you don't even need it. ~Steven Wright

25th of May 2011 (Wed)	#11
Dr Lazarus Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 634	Re: Waterfall The split/graduated ND will allow you to darken just the sky area. Very handy purchase if you plan on doing a lot of landscape work.

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Harm " I take nothing seriously " Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 42,431	Re: Waterfall as well as the graduated/hard ND, you could also use a graduated filter in Lightroom too. That could save some sky... __________________ SmugMug • 5∞ • 1x • flickr

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