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Canon 7d and the 40d

 
kipliq
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Jun 22, 2011 19:07 |  #1

Hey all, I currently have a 40d which I'm happy with. Would an upgrade be worth the price if I'm only after the photo side and would not use the video much. I'm looking at the ISO for the 7d and read that its better but not a large jump. People are supporting both cameras so it nice to hear the old 40d is still making it around. Someone mentioned I could look for a 50d but heard mixed reviews from posts.


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Jun 22, 2011 19:10 |  #2

The 7D has 'horrible' ISO. There's been a big thread on how bad the ISO would be on the 7D.
I think the most important questions to ask you are:
- Do you find your 40D limiting and, if so, in what way?
- What do you shoot mostly and how do you think the 7D will benefit you in shooting what you shoot?


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Jun 22, 2011 19:15 |  #3

Iso is about 1 stop better.Focus is way better,all other peripherals are way better.40D isn't bad though.


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Jun 22, 2011 19:15 |  #4

I rather spend money on lens. 40D is still a good camera indeed.


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Jun 22, 2011 19:26 |  #5

TijmenDal wrote in post #12641593external link
The 7D has 'horrible' ISO. There's been a big thread on how bad the ISO would be on the 7D.
I think the most important questions to ask you are:
- Do you find your 40D limiting and, if so, in what way?
- What do you shoot mostly and how do you think the 7D will benefit you in shooting what you shoot?

Do you even KNOW what you're talking about? Please quit spreading stuff like this if you have no practical knowledge of it. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the 7D as far as ISO performance goes; and it is certainly better than the 40D. And any noise that IS there is very easily dealt with in PP.

The 40D only goes up to ISO 1600, whereas the 7D goes to 6400 (expansion ISO settings aside). That's a LOT more leeway to deal with when it comes to lower light situations.

My 40D still sits on my shelf as a backup unit, but the 7D is a more capable camera in just about every way. However, it would depend on just what the limits you're feeling on the 40D are, as TijmenDal indicates with his questions, as to whether the price to upgrade is worth while.

My driving force for the upgrade was the ability to tone down how quickly the AF system attempts to refocus when using AI Servo focusing...that one thing alone was worth the upgrade for me. I've since come to enjoy the rest of the camera, as well. I would only consider two upgrades from this point, which would be a 1D MkIV or should I strike the lottery, a 1Ds MkIII. But that's based on shooting, primarily, birds, wildlife, etc.


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Jun 22, 2011 19:37 |  #6

I own both cameras and the 7D is a better camera in every respect:
AF
Resolution
IQ
FPS
ISO
Wireless off camera flash
Video
...and countless other features

My 40D is still an awesome camera, but it is eclipsed by the 7D in every way. Thankfully I have some nice glass to share between the two bodies.

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Jun 22, 2011 19:41 as a reply to Snydremark's post |  #7

I upgraded to 7D due to a couple of reasons:
1. Micro adjustments
2. Weather resistance
3. Auto Focus

As a bonus I got:
Extreme customization
Better build and feel
Better viewfinder
Ability to wirelessly control my flashes
Much better LCD (not a big deal)
Video (never use it)
18mp gives me a lot more room to crop **** out (I do quite a bit of square crops etc)

I did not see any big difference between the image quality, but at higher iso settings 7D has more definition. One thing I would note is the vertical banding noise pattern if you really push the exposure limits in post processing, while 40D just had random noise increase

Overall, I would only sell it if there was another camera with all of those features but a bigger sensor or simply better image for roughly the same price. So I am holding onto my lovely camera


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Jun 22, 2011 19:45 |  #8

TijmenDal wrote in post #12641593external link
The 7D has 'horrible' ISO. There's been a big thread on how bad the ISO would be on the 7D.
I think the most important questions to ask you are:
- Do you find your 40D limiting and, if so, in what way?
- What do you shoot mostly and how do you think the 7D will benefit you in shooting what you shoot?

There is so much misinformation spread out here:cry:


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Jun 22, 2011 19:49 |  #9

ppmax wrote in post #12641718external link
My 40D is still an awesome camera, but it is eclipsed by the 7D in every way.

That pretty much sums it up. It's painfully difficult to let go of your loyalty for the 40D, but the reality is that the 7D is just... better.


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kipliq
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Jun 22, 2011 19:51 |  #10

The ISO performance and the higher lower light situation leeway would be the big thing and the weather sealing. the micro adjust and better focus would be other reason I would never use the video. I rather they give us a camera without video and cut off a few $$. I'm starting to build my glass collection and have what I need and use at the moment. Only reason I have the 40d is I purchased it almost new for really cheap from a coworker and had around 6k shutter clicks lol. I'm in no way a professional and still a beginner but I do like to taking night shots.


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Jun 22, 2011 20:36 |  #11

The 7D with proper set up and handling can rival the 5D MKii in some instances. Alright there I said it, don't loose it all you FF guys. But seriously the 7D's many unique attributes makes it worth the upgrade alone. For instance: HD Video, "Q" Screen/button, 3 user presets, 8fps, Fast and accurate AF, 1/250th flash sync, doesn't the 5D MKII only go to 1/200th ISO to 6400. I particularly like the Q screen and I would not own another camera that did not have this feature.


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PrinceAbubu
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Jun 22, 2011 20:40 |  #12

If I was you, look at getting a FF body instead. You're 40D is always usable anywhere IMO. But a FF body, well thats another league!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Jun 22, 2011 20:56 |  #13

kipliq wrote in post #12641781external link
The ISO performance and the higher lower light situation leeway would be the big thing and the weather sealing. the micro adjust and better focus would be other reason I would never use the video. I rather they give us a camera without video and cut off a few $$. I'm starting to build my glass collection and have what I need and use at the moment. Only reason I have the 40d is I purchased it almost new for really cheap from a coworker and had around 6k shutter clicks lol. I'm in no way a professional and still a beginner but I do like to taking night shots.

I'm with you on the video thing! :) For night shots, you might try a good, solid tripod, lower ISO and longer shutter speed

Otherwise, it's definitely a great upgrade with a ton of additional features. If you have the cash to do it, I'd say go for it; but for what you're describing, I wouldn't stretch a budget to get it.


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Jun 22, 2011 20:57 |  #14

I upgraded to the 7D after shooting with my 40D for a few years. Though I still have my 40D and use it often the 7D does everything better then the 40D especially focusing and noise.
Don't knock video, I did not use it for a while but I have been hired to video a couple of wedding. Though it is not my favorite there is good money in video. The 7D is worth buying and the 40D is worth keeping.


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Jun 22, 2011 21:07 as a reply to 5x5 photography's post |  #15

Hi, I just moved up to the 7D from my 40D and I couldn't be happier. The 7D really is a better camera. I still have my 40D but I don't know if I would ever use it again. The 7D is really a good product. I don't think you'll be sorry. Have fun and keep shooting. Mike




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