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Aug 29, 2011 22:10 |  #1

First indoor for some time! The gym was HORRIBLE (shocker). The game itself was not too fun to watch either. I'm very used to club volleyball, where the level of play is much higher. I only got to see a few attacks, mostly from the girl in blue, who was a monster. C+C always appreciated. Shot with 1d mark III, Sigma 70-200 OS, 3200 ISO, 1/640. Quite a bit of noise reduction was done, is it incredibly apparent?

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Aug 29, 2011 23:12 |  #2

I usually cringe when looking at volleyball photos posted on this forum, lol. It's a very tough sport to shoot!... Not this time though, well done.
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Two very well composed shots. ball and face in the frame, faces in focus. WB may be just slightly blue, but it's VERY close. As far as the noise reduction, it's apparent only when looking at the skin, it's very smooth.

Other than those minor "issues", I can see you've improved a lot with your PP!


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Aug 30, 2011 05:32 as a reply to NewEnglandPhotographer's post |  #3

I love the shots. As far as noise reduction, yes, it's readily apparent but that is dependent on who is looking at (and buying!) the shots. Parents will and should be ecstatic about the results. Some here will find the NR a bit heavy handed.

I might try a tad less but as you well know, there is a trade-off. They are excellent captures, well cropped. Tweak them for your desired viewer. Declare victory.


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Aug 30, 2011 09:07 |  #4

Good shots.
Really like that you have the ball and players in the frame and their eyes tell it all. I found in volleyball that watching a players eyes will tell you right where the ball is, you captured this on the button.

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Aug 30, 2011 11:17 |  #5

It seems a bit strong on the noise reduction, a little grain is certainly acceptable and should
add some definition back in. ISO 3200 on a Mark III is quite good.

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Aug 30, 2011 12:44 |  #6

Yeah the more I look at it the more I think the NR was a little much (at least with the first one, I think the second one doesn't look as bad). Is purchasing a standalone noise reduction software worth it? I use Lightroom 3 currently for noise reduction.




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Aug 30, 2011 12:51 |  #7

Yur images seem a little soft, but I love the contrast. When I shoot volleyball I sit down on the floor right in front of the net post next to the team benches. With my 70-200 2.8 mounted on my 1D and a wide angle on my T1i I can cover the whole game




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Aug 30, 2011 12:55 |  #8

I definitely position myself there for back row shots. I often step back and out to get the attackers in frame.




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Aug 30, 2011 14:00 |  #9

Noise Ninja works pretty well and "plugs-in" to photoshop. I like it much better than the photoshop
noise reduction.

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Aug 30, 2011 14:44 |  #10

HSCanon1d wrote in post #13025027external link
Yur images seem a little soft, but I love the contrast. When I shoot volleyball I sit down on the floor right in front of the net post next to the team benches. With my 70-200 2.8 mounted on my 1D and a wide angle on my T1i I can cover the whole game

you use the 70-200 right up at the net? Isn't that a bit tight? What body do you use your 70-200 on, FF?


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Aug 30, 2011 14:51 |  #11

Great shots - what Aperture setting were you in for these (and were you full manual, Av or Tv mode?)?

I was able to stop action well (including the ball) using my 85mm f/1.8 indoors, but my DoF was pretty narrow...


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Aug 30, 2011 14:55 |  #12

ewheeler20 wrote in post #13025560external link
you use the 70-200 right up at the net? Isn't that a bit tight? What body do you use your 70-200 on, FF?

Absolutely I do. It's not tight for what I am using it for. If I am shooting from the floor at the net, I can get the following shots:

-Setter on the right side.
-Opposite hitter on the right side.
-All three back row players on the right side.

-Outside hitter on the left side.
-All three back row players on the left side.

On the right side, the players I'm not shooting are the outside and the middle hitter. I'm not shooting the outside anyway because I would always be shooting his or her back. I'm not shooting the middle hitter because he or she is square to the net so it is hard to get the face. For both of these positions, I will shoot through the net from the left side to get them (Pic #1 is an example).

On the left side, the players I'm not shooting are the setter, opposite, and middle. The setter will be facing the opposite way the entire time so I won't shoot there. The middle is the same problem as on the other side. The opposite is the same problem as the outside on the other side.




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Aug 30, 2011 14:57 |  #13

acroberts wrote in post #13025593external link
Great shots - what Aperture setting were you in for these (and were you full manual, Av or Tv mode?)?

I was able to stop action well (including the ball) using my 85mm f/1.8 indoors, but my DoF was pretty narrow...

Manual mode, all at 2.8. The 85 is a GREAT volleyball lens. It is perfect for club tournaments when there is not alot of room around each court. DOF will be narrow, that is definitely an issue.




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Aug 30, 2011 15:15 |  #14

Damadsetta wrote in post #13025628external link
Manual mode, all at 2.8. The 85 is a GREAT volleyball lens. It is perfect for club tournaments when there is not alot of room around each court. DOF will be narrow, that is definitely an issue.

Thanks for the info - I used the 85mm for some club tournaments earlier this year and am going to break it back out this fall. Hoping to get my hands on a 70-200mm sooner than later, though :)

And does anyone have thoughts on how important optical stabilization is for shooting sports (at 1/400 or faster)? My thinking is that it's not worth the extra $$$ unless I am going to do portraits and such down the road.


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Aug 30, 2011 15:17 |  #15

acroberts wrote in post #13025771external link
Thanks for the info - I used the 85mm for some club tournaments earlier this year and am going to break it back out this fall. Hoping to get my hands on a 70-200mm sooner than later, though :)

And does anyone have thoughts on how important optical stabilization is for shooting sports (at 1/400 or faster)? My thinking is that it's not worth the extra $$$ unless I am going to do portraits and such down the road.

Useless. Shutter speed is too fast, stabilization won't help you.




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