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Old 12th of February 2012 (Sun)   #3241
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Just to let you guys know, the D800/E can focus at f8. The 1D X can't.
Julian, I'm starting to think that you are wearing a yellow shirt these days. One could almost belive that you are turning troll like bud! Soon you'll grow horns and a big tail...and and and....oh, you get the picture
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Old 12th of February 2012 (Sun)   #3242
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Julian, I'm starting to think that you are wearing a yellow shirt these days. One could almost belive that you are turning troll like bud! Soon you'll grow horns and a big tail...and and and....oh, you get the picture
LOL! Far from being a troll. More like being a joker as always. I like both camps. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
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Old 12th of February 2012 (Sun)   #3243
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Julian, I'm starting to think that you are wearing a yellow shirt these days. One could almost belive that you are turning troll like bud! Soon you'll grow horns and a big tail...and and and....oh, you get the picture
He's just upset because he's been waiting for a 1DSIV for what seems to be FOREVER now and it never materialized... until now in the form of the D800. So Canon kinda let him down.
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You might want to take a look at this wedding photog's feedback on the the D800. The ISO 6400 is impressive even with that much MPs. He compares the ISO to the D3/D700. An amazing for a camera that has this much resolution. Plus the AF is sensitive to minus 2EV. Hehe!

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I really like the improvements to the metering when using a flash, I hope Canon does that on the 1dx. That would be great not having to adjust the FEC as often.
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Old 12th of February 2012 (Sun)   #3245
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Aghhhh....where will it all end
With the Zombie Apocalypse, of course, which I intend to photograph with my 1Dx.

That'll ride the other side of a Black Rapid from my Poulan Pro with a Remington 870 as backup. :P
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Seeems to be more and more 'selling all my Canon gear' FS threads popping up.
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Old 12th of February 2012 (Sun)   #3247
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Panic sellers. They are foolish to cash out prior to the forthcoming 5DIII announcement(s).
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I'm keeping an eye out for deals, especially if a 17mm TS-E pops up cheap.
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You might want to take a look at this wedding photog's feedback on the the D800. The ISO 6400 is impressive even with that much MPs. He compares the ISO to the D3/D700. An amazing feat for a camera that has this much resolution. Plus the AF is sensitive to minus 2EV. Hehe!

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Ive got too much Time and $$ invested in Canon to even think about a change to Nikon. I know my cameras well, Know what i need to do when i get in trouble and i like what i have. Dont want 36mps,,EVER. 16MP is bad enough running files through photoshop and by the time i get them the way i want them, some of these files are 20-27MP after post......They take forever to run actions and they just tie up the workflow. Most wedding guys dont want larger MP cameras. We print albums, 16x20's and an occasional 30x40.......i dont need any more.

Clean iso at 6400, great resolution and im good. I understand everyone else wanting more and thats fine. Plenty to choose for your needs these days so everyone can have at it. Im sooooo impressed with the 1DMKIV and im really anxious to see what the 5D3 is going to do.

One more point. Im not so sure this 1Dx is going to be a good performer for canon if these cameras at the 3K price point are going to be this good. D800 is impressive. Im sure the 5D3 will be as well. So why the need for a 7500.00 camera when the 3000.00 cameras are going to be this good ??
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One more point. Im not so sure this 1Dx is going to be a good performer for canon if these cameras at the 3K price point are going to be this good. D800 is impressive. Im sure the 5D3 will be as well. So why the need for a 7500.00 camera when the 3000.00 cameras are going to be this good ??
Canon had best reconsider a $7500 price tag, otherwise you may be correct.
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Ive got too much Time and $$ invested in Canon to even think about a change to Nikon. I know my cameras well, Know what i need to do when i get in trouble and i like what i have. Dont want 36mps,,EVER. 16MP is bad enough running files through photoshop and by the time i get them the way i want them, some of these files are 20-27MP after post......They take forever to run actions and they just tie up the workflow. Most wedding guys dont want larger MP cameras. We print albums, 16x20's and an occasional 30x40.......i dont need any more.

Clean iso at 6400, great resolution and im good. I understand everyone else wanting more and thats fine. Plenty to choose for your needs these days so everyone can have at it. Im sooooo impressed with the 1DMKIV and im really anxious to see what the 5D3 is going to do.

One more point. Im not so sure this 1Dx is going to be a good performer for canon if these cameras at the 3K price point are going to be this good. D800 is impressive. Im sure the 5D3 will be as well. So why the need for a 7500.00 camera when the 3000.00 cameras are going to be this good ??
Exactly! This is what draw me to conclusion to not buy a 1D X. The Nikon offering has 51 AF points with increased sensitivity.
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Y'all don't think Getty, Reuters and SI can afford $7500?

Better question: How many do you need to buy to have the Volume Discount kick in?
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Canon had best reconsider a $7500 price tag, otherwise you may be correct.
Canon may well ask $7500 for it at launch. This is why I never (with one exception) buy bodies at launch. Once all the preorders are filled and the bodies are sitting on the shelves at the major retailers the price will come down. And I'm with one of the previous posters here, I'm waiting to see what else Canon has up their sleeve before deciding on my next body.
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One more point. Im not so sure this 1Dx is going to be a good performer for canon if these cameras at the 3K price point are going to be this good. D800 is impressive. Im sure the 5D3 will be as well. So why the need for a 7500.00 camera when the 3000.00 cameras are going to be this good ??
Canon will make sure the 5D3, at least, isn't enough of a performer to compete with the 1Dx that way. I expect they'll do what they've always done in the past: give it an excellent sensor (probably something that matches the D800 in resolution) and put a mediocre autofocus system in it.

Yeah, they could put the 7D autofocus system in it, but unless they expand the size of the autofocus sensor appropriately, that would only get you a really good expanded center point, and not anything like the D800 or 1Dx autofocus systems, which get you rule-of-thirds location coverage.


If you want to get an idea of how Canon thinks about its customer base, just look at their most recent lens announcement. They introduced the new 24-70 without IS, and introduced two slow, wide angle f/2.8 primes with IS. Which is to say, they put IS where it matters the least, and intentionally neglected to put it where the demand is high (IS on the 24-70 was one of the most anticipated upgrades). And Canon wants $2300 for that new 24-70 lens that doesn't even have IS.

With that in mind, there is no way Canon will create a lower end product (5D3) that can provide significant competition to its new, shiny flagship model.

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Canon will make sure the 5D3, at least, isn't enough of a performer to compete with the 1Dx that way. I expect they'll do what they've always done in the past: give it an excellent sensor (probably something that matches the D800 in resolution) and put a mediocre autofocus system in it.

Yeah, they could put the 7D autofocus system in it, but unless they expand the size of the autofocus sensor appropriately, that would only get you a really good expanded center point, and not anything like the D800 or 1Dx autofocus systems, which get you rule-of-thirds location coverage.


If you want to get an idea of how Canon thinks about its customer base, just look at their most recent lens announcement. They introduced the new 24-70 without IS, and introduced two slow, wide angle f/2.8 primes with IS. Which is to say, they put IS where it matters the least, and intentionally neglected to put it where the demand is high (IS on the 24-70 was one of the most anticipated upgrades). And Canon wants $2300 for that new 24-70 lens that doesn't even have IS.

With that in mind, there is no way Canon will create a lower end product (5D3) that can provide significant competition to its new, shiny flagship model.

We are not customers to Canon, we are consumers.
I don't think they're going to allow the 5D3 to match the performance of the 1D X either. I'm not too sure about the MP in the sensor but I would expect it to have some sort of modified 7D AF (which is nowhere as good as the 1D series AF but much better than the old xxD AF) and something like 4-5 FPS burst. Of course this is all supposition on my part.
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