OFFICIAL: Canon 1D X announced

[narlus]

Originally Posted by Erik S. Klein

I'm not a fan myself, but Canon has to recognize that the more white seen in pictures like this the more cameras they'll sell in the long run.

Hundreds of millions will watch the broadcasts and/or see images from the events...

i've seen this stated before but there are a couple of rather gaping holes in the logic...

1 - no one can see what body those lenses are attached to.
2 - if the Canon shooters don't have a 1Dx and feel that their IDIV or 5D3 is inadequate for the task, how many will drop systems and shoot nikon?

[S.Horton]

Originally Posted by GMCPhotographics

I've had these Digital cameras at launch, 300D, 20D, 5D, 40D, 5DII, 7D, 5DIII. I can honestly say that the 5DIII is THE most sorted camera at launch that I've ever bought from Canon.

Good to hear.

I saw some sports action from that body and my interest in it is high.

I may rent one to test it on real-world NCAA LAX.

[happy hopping]

Originally Posted by MaDProFF

Seems like June release now.

seems there are some issues with some canon lenses, and Pocket wizards

is there an official annoucement on the delay?

[Erik S. Klein]

Originally Posted by happy hopping

is there an official annoucement on the delay?

I haven't seen anything official. Just rumors. It's plausible, just not official.

[umphotography]

Originally Posted by GMCPhotographics

I've had these Digital cameras at launch, 300D, 20D, 5D, 40D, 5DII, 7D, 5DIII. I can honestly say that the 5DIII is THE most sorted camera at launch that I've ever bought from Canon.

X2

Agree 100%. After looking at nicksons results, Im seriously re-thinking the 1Dx. The camera looks pretty darn good. The 1Dx will really have to blow it away for people to spend an additional $3800.00 for the 1Dx...,,waiting to see

[MaDProFF]

I got to admit, I am not to sure what Canon are up to atm, by the time they would have got the 1D X out, news of the big MP body be about, the mk3 5D must be taking sales of the 1D X as well, and as someone said what are 1D X buyers getting for the huge price hike over the 5D MK3?

They managed to rush out the 5D MK3 to compete with the D800, the D800 may even compete with the 1D X, so why the delays on the 1D X?

[FlyingPhotog]

Originally Posted by MaDProFF

I got to admit, I am not to sure what Canon are up to atm, by the time they would have got the 1D X out, news of the big MP body be about, the mk3 5D must be taking sales of the 1D X as well, and as someone said what are 1D X buyers getting for the huge price hike over the 5D MK3?

More than likely, the "huge price hike" would be over a 1DMkIV and not a 5DMkIII. Therefore, it's a proportionately smaller "hike." As for the 5DMkIII taking sales away from the 1DX, this would only be true if there were a significant number of shooters coming from a body that's subordinate to the 5D3. As someone who uses two 1DMkIVs and a 1DMkIII, the 5DMkIII is not a body I'm in any hurry to buy and I know several 1DMkIV users who feel the same way. Simple extrapolation says your theory is flawed.

They managed to rush out the 5D MK3 to compete with the D800, the D800 may even compete with the 1D X, so why the delays on the 1D X?

Canon doesn't "rush" anything to compete with anyone. There's no connection between the release of the D800 and the 5DMkIII.

The 1DX and the D800 couldn't be more dissimilar. The D800 is all about maximum pixels while the 1DX will be all about maximum speed. The ultimate IQ of each will be entirely in the eye of the beholder.

[sebasr]

Canon doesn't "rush" anything to compete with anyone.

I don't know, maybe they rushed the 1dx announcement.

[mtimber]

Originally Posted by FlyingPhotog

More than likely, the "huge price hike" would be over a 1DMkIV and not a 5DMkIII. Therefore, it's a proportionately smaller "hike." As for the 5DMkIII taking sales away from the 1DX, this would only be true if there were a significant number of shooters coming from a body that's subordinate to the 5D3. As someone who uses two 1DMkIVs and a 1DMkIII, the 5DMkIII is not a body I'm in any hurry to buy and I know several 1DMkIV users who feel the same way. Simple extrapolation says your theory is flawed.



Canon doesn't "rush" anything to compete with anyone. There's no connection between the release of the D800 and the 5DMkIII.

The 1DX and the D800 couldn't be more dissimilar. The D800 is all about maximum pixels while the 1DX will be all about maximum speed. The ultimate IQ of each will be entirely in the eye of the beholder.

No company operates in a vacuum, they are all watching each other.

I would not be surprised if the 5d3 was rushed.

Look at the announcement of the 1dx and release compared to the 5d3.

1dx announced, then canon go for a leisurely stroll with it around the park not showing it to anyone.

5d3 thrown into everyones laps practically as soon as it was announced.

There is enough inconsistency there to hint that Canon does try to compete in a global market and launches products with competitors in mind...

[MaDProFF]

They do compete for sure, more annoying they do not compete when there is no competition, hence no updates for the 5D for years.

I do not understand the delay of the 1D X it is that different to the 5D MK3, some of the new technology is in both cameras, I wonder what the hold up is.

One thing comes to mind, maybe they have pushed the 5D MK3 out sooner and before the 1D X to test some of the new technology as it is better Customer wise to have a few problems in a 5D series than the top of the range 1DX their flag ship for the time being?

[mtimber]

^^I am not so sure.

The 5d market is probably 10-1 the market of the 1dx, (figure plucked out of the air).

That would be the product I would protect.

[GMCPhotographics]

Originally Posted by MaDProFF

I got to admit, I am not to sure what Canon are up to atm, by the time they would have got the 1D X out, news of the big MP body be about, the mk3 5D must be taking sales of the 1D X as well, and as someone said what are 1D X buyers getting for the huge price hike over the 5D MK3?

They managed to rush out the 5D MK3 to compete with the D800, the D800 may even compete with the 1D X, so why the delays on the 1D X?

Sorry bud, but I can't see any specification in the 1DX that in any way compares to a D800 specification. They are intended for completely different markets and different buyers. The 1DX is Canon's most professionally targetted camera, to cover the most versatility that the professional market could need. The Nikon D800 (a great camera) is so specifically targetted at the serious amature it's almost precluding the professional market. I know of a lot of Canon users who swapped for Nikon, particaulrly the D700 because of it's more Professional specs and are now bitterly dissapointed with Nikon's responce. Nikon have dropped a very big ball with the D800 and their professional clientel.

The 5DIII is again so far removed from the D800's market. The 5DIII is also chasing a professional market, its AF system and build are on a different level to previous 5D series cameras and I think Canon should have called this camera a 5DX to underline this point. The D800 is chasing the traditional market that was forged by the original 5D many years ago. While it's a fantastic camera, for the majority of professional and amature photographers in 2012....the 5DIII is a more versatile choice.

Those who think that the 5DIII is built like a 5DII....you've not tried one or dropped one yet...it's whole casing is metal, I can show you the comparitive scuffs if you like.

[GMCPhotographics]

Originally Posted by MaDProFF

They do compete for sure, more annoying they do not compete when there is no competition, hence no updates for the 5D for years.

I do not understand the delay of the 1D X it is that different to the 5D MK3, some of the new technology is in both cameras, I wonder what the hold up is.

One thing comes to mind, maybe they have pushed the 5D MK3 out sooner and before the 1D X to test some of the new technology as it is better Customer wise to have a few problems in a 5D series than the top of the range 1DX their flag ship for the time being?

I think that Canon are carefully judging the moment they release two cameras. I think Canon wanted to release the 1Dx first, but due to a battery supply issue a the pressing need to relase the 5DIII, the release schedule for these two cameras was swapped. I think Canon are now holding back the 1Dx to allow the 5DIII to have it's swan song and live out it's initial sales with out the hinderance of splitting the buying populous with another choice in the market. I think when the 1Dx does come along, it's will have it's own fanfare and the 5DIII hub-bub will have died down somewhat. Which will allow Canon to focus (sorry for the pun) on it's newest baby.
I think it's interesting that the nikon D4 doesn't seem as popular in the pro comunity as the 1Dx, just a curious observation. Another observation, in the UK, Nikon have just raised the UK price substantially to close the gap with the 5DIII. It seems that Nikon are copying Canon's pricepoint again. It is showing that Canon are the movers and shakers of the DSLR market and every other brand follows in their wake.

[Yohan Pamudji]

Gareth,

If the 5DIII is "chasing a professional market" then so is the D800. The D700 was already in this realm with its pro AF and weather sealing, and the D800 improves on that. They might have alienated some shooters with their shift to higher MP and lower framerate, but that doesn't make it any less of a professional body than the D700 or the 5DIII.

[GMCPhotographics]

Originally Posted by Yohan Pamudji

Gareth,

If the 5DIII is "chasing a professional market" then so is the D800. The D700 was already in this realm with its pro AF and weather sealing, and the D800 improves on that. They might have alienated some shooters with their shift to higher MP and lower framerate, but that doesn't make it any less of a professional body than the D700 or the 5DIII.

While I agree with you, 4fps, massive RAW files size with no option to reduce it ala mRAW / sRAW is a big handicap for many Pros. There's a lotof complaining in pro camps about Nikon pushing the very expensive D4 on them to replace their D700's. 2x D4's are a hell of a lot of cash to fork out in an already tight margin industry.