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STICKY: A list of Picture Profiles for use in Canon EOS DSLRs

 
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Dec 28, 2011 17:48 |  #1

Hopefully this can be made into a sticky and people won't have to search too hard to find a Picture Profile that they would like to try.

Most are free to download, some cost a small amount for the work that was put into them. But hopefully others will contribute and add new ones as they find them or become available. I'll ask that if you list one to please put a discription to it to help people understand what it is they are looking at. A link to any videos shot with it would also be helpful in deciding.

So here's a start:

Technicolor Cinestyle - This was a joint venture between Canon and Technicolor to create a PP that was very edit friendly. It needs to be color corrected, but it also gives you a large dynamic range to work with.
http://www.technicolor​.com ...-printer-lights/cinestyleexternal link
You'll have to sign up to download this style, but it's cool.

Marvels Cine Picture Style v3.4 - This is another well used, and well documented PP and style that a lot of people use. It is definitely not as flat as Technicolor’s Cinestyle but offers a great alternative in some situations. It loves to be CC'ed, but it can be used without any correction, but most do some post work when using it.
http://mediatube.marve​lsfilm.com/marvels_cin​e_v33.zipexternal link
Here is a page at Marvel's site that has other Marvel PPs to download and try. Too many to list here.
http://marvelsfilm.wor​dpress.com ...l-marvels-picture-styles/external link

Cinema Picture Style - This one costs $19 to download, but many think it is worth it. I have been using this one as of late and I find it very interesting. It's a finished PP, meaning that it doesn't need post work CC. It can stand on it's own, but it does take to CC very well if you want to do that.
http://www.cineplus.ch​/cinema.htmlexternal link
There are a lot of cool videos to see what this PP looks like at the link above. I find that it works better for me in different situations. No one style is perfect in all lighting conditions.

Flat PP by Jorgen Escherexternal link - A PP that needs to be corrected in post.
Notes From Jorgen
"I have developed a new type of flat picture profile for the Canon “d” series video DSLR cameras. This profile has been devised and tested using the Canon 5DmkII, a MacBeth colour card, two different calibrated light sources (3200k & 5600k soft floods), Adobe Color, Adobe Photoshop and a few software tools I have developed myself. This picture profile uses 10 S-curve node points and mathematically wraps correctly around the existing build-in Standard Profile S-Curve.
Goals were striving for correct colorimetric reproduction (no weird chroma artifacts), no gaps or bumps in the resulting curve, linear behaviour in the skin-color-exposure range and a few more points that are described in more detail by Martin Beek on his weblog http://marvelsfilm.wor​dpress.comexternal link. There you can download the picture profile and read about it’s uses for video shooters (I’m a colorist and mathematician, not a film maker…).
Go have a look and use it for free in your camera – happy shooting!"

Crooked Path Flatexternal link -
- Based of the FAITHFUL profile. Faithful is just like NEUTRAL only adds a touch more saturation to the highlights and midtones, and also pulls the midtone and highlight exposure down very slightly.
- Curve is not extreme, and is very gradable in post.
- Totally removes any muddy/terracotta/plast​ic look to faces.
- Totally removes any noise issues (assuming you’re properly exposed).
- Default Sharpness is set at 2. This is a very subjective area. In our testing, we noted that any setting below +2 seems to almost blur the image. Anything above +2 seems to be artificial looking. +2 seems to be perfect. We’ve also noted that the in-camera sharpness is much cleaner and un-artificial looking when compared to using the unsharp mask in after effects. It is recommended that you lower only if seeing moire issues.
- Default Contrast is all the way to the left. We don’t recommend changing this.
- Default Saturation is at zero. In 8bit 4:2:0 colorspace, it’s best to keep it here and adjust in post. Lowering will cause lost information.
- Default Tone is +2. In our testing the 5d seemed to bias toward red in the skin tones. This is to compensate for that. Adjust to fit your needs.

Cinema 1 Picture Style - This is one that I have been using lately. It is considered a finished PP in that it really needs no CC. It was created to solve a few of the problems with the basic PPs that come with our cameras and yet to be faster to deal with in post because it needs no CC work. I like what I am seeing so far, but others might not like it. An earlier version of it had issues with holding highlights, this version corrected that issue. It's pretty vibrant in it's look.
http://dl.dropbox.com/​u/37533131/Cinema1L.pf​2external link

A video I shot using the Cinema 1 Picture Style:
http://vimeo.com/34241​666external link
There were only two scenes that I adjusted the color on. Not that it needed it, but for creative reasons.

Genesis Panalog4 Picture Style by Noah Yuan-Vogel
http://noahyv.com ...restyles...nalog4_W​IP.pf2external link
This is one that I just found and downloaded. I'll give it a try and see what it looks like. If it sucks, I'll dump it. That's the nice thing about these Picture Profiles. They are easy to upload and replace.

Gavin Films Genisis Panalog - Another one I recently found. I don't know anything about this one either. Sorry, give it a try if you want.
http://gavinfilms.com/​filmprofile/Giles_Film​.pf2external link

Shutter-Down-Pancake Style
: http://shutterdown.com ...cake-canon-picture-style/external link
This PP is being used on BBC and DirecTV Series right now. You will have to register to their site to download this PP. I've loaded this one to my 7D and it is very interesting. It does open up the blacks a bit more than R3_0701L or even more still than Cinema PS, but not as flat as Marvel 3.4 and the sharpness is a lot higher than any of the other PP listed here. The base line is set at 0, I've set my sharpness down one notch to -1. The saturation is also up a bit higher than most others. But this PP looks great so far in early around the house tests. It looks good under household lights (incandecense, CF and halogen bulbs)

How to Use/Install PP's

Installing your PP’s is very simple and only takes a few minutes. For the process, you will need your camera, a USB cable, and the EOS Utility software.
Here are some short step-by-step instructions:
1. Install or update the latest version of Canon’s EOS Utility for your PC or Mac. Make sure that you have updated the software so you don’t run into problems!
2. Connect your camera to your computer via USB and switch it on. Make sure it is set to still mode and not movie mode.
3. Start the EOS Utility and click the menu button “Camera Settings / Remote Shooting”
4. Select the camera icon (red) and ‘Picture Style’.
5. Click ‘Detail set’.
6. In the new window that appears, Select one of the User Def. items from the drop down menu at the top of the screen, and then click the ‘Open’ button.
7. In the dialog window that opens, select the Picture Style file you have previously downloaded. This will transfer the style to your camera.
8. The uploaded profile will now reside under the selected User Def (1..3) picture profile on your camera.
9. Disconnect your camera and you should be good to go!

I found this bit of info out there on the internets about the T2i and thought it would be helpful for some.
Special Note: Installing on 600D / T2i

“For 600D it is slightly different. I loaded the picture style onto the camera using canon utility while in the P (or M) setting (in movie setting it wont let you load them).
Then once the profile is loaded, disconnect the camera from the computer, set the camera to movie mode on the dial, press the menu button and navigate to the picture style option. Click on the picture style option using the set button, scroll to the user def that you saved the picture profile to (1,2 or 3), press info, click on where it says picture style user def 1 (or your relevant user def number)using the set button, then you get two arrows up and down, using the up down buttons on your camera scroll to the saved picture profile that you desire then click set”.



Please, if you come across any other Picture Profiles that others here might find useful, post a link to them here. This only helps our ever expanding knowledge base!


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Dec 28, 2011 18:47 |  #2

Great post mate. Thanks for that. It deserves to be a sticky.


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Dec 28, 2011 19:51 |  #3

Just doing what I can to payback all the awesome help I've received from this site over the years!

That and I got tired of trying to hunt these down all the time.
Cetre asked me the other day about one of these PP and I figured that I should post this up instead of burying that info inside of a totally unrelated thread.


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Dec 29, 2011 01:43 |  #4

thanks very much for your time on this. I'll try it out.




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Dec 29, 2011 14:43 |  #5

I downloaded this one last night and installed it in my camera. I think I like this one better than the Cinema 1 PP that I have been using. The Cinema 1 PP has more saturated blues. This one is more natural looking and balanced. Again, this is a "finished" PP that doesn't really need any CC work.

R3_0701L - http://dl.dropbox.com/​u/37533131/R3_0701L.pf​2external link

I also knocked down the contrast 1 level from the original set-up. I just wanted to open up some of the blacks a bit more. I'm playing around with more CC and wanted to see if lowering the contrast will help me out in some situations with this PP.


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Dec 31, 2011 05:14 |  #6

Thank. You. For. This!


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Dec 31, 2011 08:39 as a reply to Cetre's post |  #7

Informative post, should be a sticky.


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Dec 31, 2011 20:57 |  #8

zenarcher wrote in post #13624613external link
Informative post, should be a sticky.

Indeed it should as otherwise we are all going to get worn out bumping it.


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Dec 31, 2011 21:37 |  #9

Maybe someone should report this thread to a Mod so that it gets their attention. I've been told by them in the past to do this in other situations because they don't always see each and every thread. I'd do it, but that seems a bit odd for me to do it.


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Jan 02, 2012 10:37 |  #10

ChasWG wrote in post #13611882external link
Special Note: Installing on 600D / T2i

“For 600D it is slightly different. I loaded the picture style onto the camera using canon utility while in the P (or M) setting (in movie setting it wont let you load them).
Then once the profile is loaded, disconnect the camera from the computer, set the camera to movie mode on the dial, press the menu button and navigate to the picture style option. Click on the picture style option using the set button, scroll to the user def that you saved the picture profile to (1,2 or 3), press info, click on where it says picture style user def 1 (or your relevant user def number)using the set button, then you get two arrows up and down, using the up down buttons on your camera scroll to the saved picture profile that you desire then click set”.

This is also necessary on the 60D.

I have tried both the Technicolor and Cinema 1 style now. Cinema 1 looks very nice in the camera where as Technicolor looks as flat as a flat thing (but then that is what they said it would look like) and is pretty much only any good if you intend to post process it (which is what they said).


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Jan 02, 2012 14:21 |  #11

Yeah, that Cinema 1 is actually pretty good. I've been playing with the R3_0701L and it seems pretty cool. I shot a bunch of Broncos football action yesterday at the Broncos/Chiefs game. I was either up in the radio booth or down on the sidelines for the entire game. Yesterday was a very, very long day for me of work.

I'll post up my conclussions about the R3_0701L PP after I download my files and have a look at them.


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Jan 03, 2012 18:36 |  #12

Here's a link to the finished video using the R3_0701L PP.

http://vimeo.com/34532​775external link

I like the natural color renditions and pretty much everything about this PP.


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Jan 04, 2012 16:56 |  #13

Interesting. I find the saturation and contrast a bit over done on that one. Great definition but it almost seems to pop too much - would look awesome in a still.
That said, you do have the advantage of that big glowing thing? What's it called? Oh, yes - The Sun.

No sticky yet I see. Shame. It's a damn sight more meritous than some of the other stickies.


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Jan 04, 2012 17:02 |  #14

Subscribed. Very cool Chas, thanks!


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Jan 04, 2012 17:41 |  #15

There is room to move the saturation down as well as the contrast. That video above was done with the contrast turned down one notch. The video above may seemed a bit over saturated, but I also think that environment is a bit unusual in that there is a sea of very strong colors on the field and in the stands as well as around the stadium.

But I see what you're saying John. I might try lowering the saturation a bit and see what that looks like.

Thanks Ben! I just saw a need for this.


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