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Can I get some feedback on an issue that I'm struggling with?
Personally, I feel that if you are shooting sports and you can see the baseline, horizon or a fence along the back of the field, you should try to level your shot a little. I mean maybe having the image cranked 20-45 degrees adds an "arty" look (dutch angle) but seriously, sometimes, to me, it's just sloppy. Am I being too critical? I don't see crazy angles in the shots I see in my local paper or in sports magazines or websites. What do you think? For an example of what I'm talking about... See this slideshow with crooked angles: http://www.houstonpress.com/slidesho...81-36079147/#4 Then check out my slideshow: http://www.houstonpress.com/slidesho...a-35971391/#25 I feel that about 98% of my shots are level, certainly one or two might get away from me in post processing, but I try my hardest to make sure my shots are level. Once again, am I too critical? Does it even matter? Last edited by groovehouse : 7th of February 2012 (Tue) at 00:40. |
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Being keystoned to sidelines, baselines, foul lines, etc. means they can't always be "level" but verticals should always be vertical!
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I agree with you: they should be level. However, it's clear that not all photographers hold this line. I often see crooked pictures in the NY Times, which bills itself as "the paper of record". Is it possible that straightening an image violates a basic tenet against photo-manipulation for journalistic use?
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That's a good question. Does it? I don't feel it does. I agree that changing the angle of the shot is "manipulating the photo" but I don't feel that it's the same as photoshopping in a ball or player or even erasing something in the image. I think leveling a shot should not fall in that category. But I don't know. I wonder what a professional photo editor thinks?
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There is currently a contentious debate going on at SportsShooter.com about modifying photos. Cropping and color correction seem to be universally allowed. I would think leveling is the same as cropping.
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Leveling is just like cropping and should be done always IMO in a sports shot,as well as exposer and color correction if its needed.I find myself straitening my other types of work too somtimes to much probebly.
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I always level my shots. I can't stand the slanted ones and I've never liked portraits, etc that are at a diagonal.
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Hi. Wonky horizons smack of amateur shots as do incorrectly cropped shots. If youre wiring images to the press you are under pressure to get that right in camera but if you can do it in pp then i think its part of you job to present your pics well
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There is nothing cheating about levelling a shot with PP software.
In the days of the darkroom the shot would have been levelled a the printing stage. That was never considered cheating. As also dodge and burn under the enlarger was not considered cheating. There is nothing wrong with the endeavour to try and take the perfect shoot . Though you are manipulating everything around the camera (lights and reflectors everywhere) . |
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I agree 100% for leveling your shots. For me I shoot NHL, the Hurricanes in particular, and I can't tell you how much it bugs me that the AP guys and Getty guys don't care about their horizons, when that is one of the main things I look for with my pictures...it shouldn't look like your player is running/skating/jumping up or down hill at all, it's just not naturally what the people there were seeing and thats what sports shooting is all about.
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I always level my sport shots, there are only certain circumstances where I feel that a slightly tilted photo can work.
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Last edited by groovehouse : 10th of February 2012 (Fri) at 11:38. |
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Thats usually the excuse I like to use haha the only photo's I don't level are the ones that when I level it, I will cut out something important in the photo such as part of a player or the puck or stick...etc
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