Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii

Etherealdc · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

Was just out shooting some tests with my 5D and came across some issues. In the first clip (and this is evident in pretty much every clip I've shot), I'm seeing a definite jitter at the edges of moving objects. The second clip has a tear in the middle of the clip. Both clips were shot at 24p with a 1/50 shutter on two different CF cards (the first was some with an 8gig and the second with a 16gig). Are these common faults or do I have a bum camera?

http://youtu.be/t_XFd4ue4ZM

dfinn · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

Mine definitely does not do that. Are you seeing that with the files straight off the camera?

Etherealdc · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

I saw it when I was shooting, during play-back on the camera, in the movie viewer on my iMac, and in Premier Pro before and after rendering,

Further info: I'm using SanDisk Extreme compact flash cards, 60MB/s UDMA.

Kento · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

I'd try downgrading and then reupgrading your firmware. Then, if you haven't already, install Magic Latern's most recent version. Seems like a internal processing issue, which should hopefully be cured with a refresh of the firmware.

ben_r_ · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

What Firmware Version are you running?

Etherealdc · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

I'm using firmware version 2.0.9

ben_r_ · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

Hmmm, the latest version is 2.1.2... Perhaps try updating? LINK

artyman · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

Looks like rolling shutter to me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter

laselvasurf · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

The first part isn't too far from normal. Though it looks pretty nasty. The second is obviously a glitch of some sort. Issue shouldn't be caused by the 60MB/s UDMA cards, though I would try a full deep format on it before using again.

Etherealdc · 15th of March 2012 (Thu)

Yeah, I thought it looked pretty bad... It looks like a buffering error to me rather than shutter (speed or rolling). I've been doing tests all day and haven't had another tear as dramatic as the one in the second clip, but I'm going to go through frame by frame on a few of these tonight or tomorrow and see if there are smaller dropouts.

My camera should still be under warranty until July; I'm trying to decide if I should get it replaced or what...

Etherealdc · 16th of March 2012 (Fri)

I went through a lot of the tests I've been doing the last few days; no more dropframes. I'm kind of at a loss for where this jutter is coming from.

Etherealdc · 16th of March 2012 (Fri)

I guess this issue I'm having is fairly common, from some of the other threads I've come across on these boards and others around, but they don't seem to be universal? I've got the jutter, and I feel like there's these weird speed ramps during pans, too (maybe those two phenomenon are synonymous). But is this something that just occurs with the 5D in general? Are some individual 5ds better than others with this?

ben_r_ · 16th of March 2012 (Fri)

So upgrading the firmware didn't help?

Etherealdc · 17th of March 2012 (Sat)

Apparently not; the jutter is very distinct, even in relatively slow pans.

http://youtu.be/Sw5mLepHNpE

First two clips are the ones I've already shown, the second two are post firmware update.

Etherealdc · 17th of March 2012 (Sat)

Made a DVD with the files, watched it; the jitter/lurch is still there, so it doesn't appear to be a problem with the playback, either.

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#1
Etherealdc Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 66	Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii Was just out shooting some tests with my 5D and came across some issues. In the first clip (and this is evident in pretty much every clip I've shot), I'm seeing a definite jitter at the edges of moving objects. The second clip has a tear in the middle of the clip. Both clips were shot at 24p with a 1/50 shutter on two different CF cards (the first was some with an 8gig and the second with a 16gig). Are these common faults or do I have a bum camera? http://youtu.be/t_XFd4ue4ZM __________________ Ethereal Pictures 5DMkII Canon Nifty Fifty 1.4 \| Canon 24-70mm 2.8 \| Canon 70-200mm 2.8 \| Canon 100mm 2.8 macro

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#2
dfinn Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 202 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii Mine definitely does not do that. Are you seeing that with the files straight off the camera?

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#3
Etherealdc Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 66	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii I saw it when I was shooting, during play-back on the camera, in the movie viewer on my iMac, and in Premier Pro before and after rendering, Further info: I'm using SanDisk Extreme compact flash cards, 60MB/s UDMA. __________________ Ethereal Pictures 5DMkII Canon Nifty Fifty 1.4 \| Canon 24-70mm 2.8 \| Canon 70-200mm 2.8 \| Canon 100mm 2.8 macro

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#4
Kento Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Innsbruck, Austria Posts: 1,199	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii I'd try downgrading and then reupgrading your firmware. Then, if you haven't already, install Magic Latern's most recent version. Seems like a internal processing issue, which should hopefully be cured with a refresh of the firmware. __________________ My Tools -Jesse

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#5
ben_r_ -POTN's Three legged Support- Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 15,526 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii What Firmware Version are you running? __________________ [ Gear List \| Flickr \| My Reviews ] /\|\ Tripod Leg Protection /\|\  GIVE a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#7
ben_r_ -POTN's Three legged Support- Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 15,526 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii Hmmm, the latest version is 2.1.2... Perhaps try updating? LINK __________________ [ Gear List \| Flickr \| My Reviews ] /\|\ Tripod Leg Protection /\|\  GIVE a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#8
artyman Cream of the Crop Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hampshire UK Posts: 13,620 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii Looks like rolling shutter to me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_shutter __________________ Art that takes you there. http://www.artyman.co.uk Ken Canon 7D, 350D, 15-85, 18-55, 75-300, Cosina 100 Macro, Sigma 120-300

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#9
laselvasurf Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 34	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii The first part isn't too far from normal. Though it looks pretty nasty. The second is obviously a glitch of some sort. Issue shouldn't be caused by the 60MB/s UDMA cards, though I would try a full deep format on it before using again. __________________ 5D MKII, T2i, 24-105L, 100-400L, 12-24 Sigma, 20mm F1.8 Sigma, 28mm F1.8 Sigma, 35mm F1.4 Rokinon, 50mm F1.4 Canon, 85mm F1.4 Vivitar flickr

15th of March 2012 (Thu)	#10
Etherealdc Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 66	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii Yeah, I thought it looked pretty bad... It looks like a buffering error to me rather than shutter (speed or rolling). I've been doing tests all day and haven't had another tear as dramatic as the one in the second clip, but I'm going to go through frame by frame on a few of these tonight or tomorrow and see if there are smaller dropouts. My camera should still be under warranty until July; I'm trying to decide if I should get it replaced or what... __________________ Ethereal Pictures 5DMkII Canon Nifty Fifty 1.4 \| Canon 24-70mm 2.8 \| Canon 70-200mm 2.8 \| Canon 100mm 2.8 macro

16th of March 2012 (Fri)	#11
Etherealdc Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 66	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii I went through a lot of the tests I've been doing the last few days; no more dropframes. I'm kind of at a loss for where this jutter is coming from. __________________ Ethereal Pictures 5DMkII Canon Nifty Fifty 1.4 \| Canon 24-70mm 2.8 \| Canon 70-200mm 2.8 \| Canon 100mm 2.8 macro

16th of March 2012 (Fri)	#13
ben_r_ -POTN's Three legged Support- Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 15,526 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii So upgrading the firmware didn't help? __________________ [ Gear List \| Flickr \| My Reviews ] /\|\ Tripod Leg Protection /\|\  GIVE a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. TEACH a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

17th of March 2012 (Sat)	#14
Etherealdc Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 66	Re: Issue shooting video w/ 5dMii Apparently not; the jutter is very distinct, even in relatively slow pans. http://youtu.be/Sw5mLepHNpE First two clips are the ones I've already shown, the second two are post firmware update. __________________ Ethereal Pictures 5DMkII Canon Nifty Fifty 1.4 \| Canon 24-70mm 2.8 \| Canon 70-200mm 2.8 \| Canon 100mm 2.8 macro

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