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Arte ­ Automobilistica
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Mar 21, 2012 02:00 |  #1

Hi

Until now I have resisted watermarking my photos as they detract from my art. I did a shoot a week ago and according to Statcounter Stats (I have Wordpress/Photocrati) 75 photos have been illegally downloaded (and BTW 0 sold!!). Apparently you can't do anything to stop illegal downloading.

Any advice?


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Mar 21, 2012 02:10 |  #2

They aren't really illegally downloaded, they are just downloaded. You should upload printable large resolution photos if you don't want them being used as whatever you're selling them to be used as. You could simply upload a preview with a light faded watermark.


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Mar 21, 2012 04:07 |  #3

People will download and use the photos you post online. I've tried to license my photos with Creative Commons BY-NC-SA. However nobody seems to care about attributing and linking back to me. So now I've stopped using CC. I retain all copyright and watermark my pictures. If somebody wants to use my pictures I usually grant a free license or maybe a small fee. Depending on the use.

The thing to think about when watermarking is to make it tasteful and small. I don't want to display my pictures with big ugly watermarks. Go to my websiteexternal link to see how I do it. I think I've found the right balance.


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Mar 24, 2012 14:32 |  #4

lcn wrote in post #14124421external link
People will download and use the photos you post online. I've tried to license my photos with Creative Commons BY-NC-SA. However nobody seems to care about attributing and linking back to me. So now I've stopped using CC. I retain all copyright and watermark my pictures. If somebody wants to use my pictures I usually grant a free license or maybe a small fee. Depending on the use.

The thing to think about when watermarking is to make it tasteful and small. I don't want to display my pictures with big ugly watermarks. Go to my websiteexternal link to see how I do it. I think I've found the right balance.

I tried to be cute about the watermark like you did. Instead, I seen my photo on the internet with my watermark cropped off. Now I have to do like Sears and other companies. I have my name going across it so that if someone was to try to crop it off, it would mess up the photo.


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Mar 24, 2012 14:36 |  #5

You can view it at

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Mar 24, 2012 15:20 |  #6

I'm not suggesting an obvious answer to this question, but I'd ask myself: what is actually doing more harm to me in terms of making sales: 1) leaving a minimal watermark or 2) adding a larger one that interferes with the aesthetics of the image ?



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tman2782
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Mar 25, 2012 02:29 |  #7

Putting a small logo or some sort of text discretely at the bottom as suggested above is NOT watermarking. A watermark overlays the image to counter reproduction of any kind. It can be very discreen and doesn't necessarily have to take away from the image.

Putting something (text/logo) in the corner isn't a way to protect your images. It is mainly used as sort of branding for the purposes of awareness. Sort of like signing your pictures so they know you made it.


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Mar 25, 2012 02:39 |  #8

Arte Automobilistica wrote in post #14124161external link
Hi

Until now I have resisted watermarking my photos as they detract from my art. I did a shoot a week ago and according to Statcounter Stats (I have Wordpress/Photocrati) 75 photos have been illegally downloaded (and BTW 0 sold!!). Apparently you can't do anything to stop illegal downloading.

Any advice?

Theres no real way to stop people from downloading your images. Even 500px, where they disable right click, there are still alot of ways to download the image without paying.

I would say, just upload the size you are willing to let people down. large enough so people can see the details but not large enough for people to print.


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Mar 28, 2012 23:55 |  #9

I have had this discussion with many different people in and out of the photography industry.

I myself put a watermark right through the middle of the images, yes it detracts from my art but I will NEVER again have the issue of illegal use.
Previously I have a small watermark in the corner and found some of my image turning up on business websites and even once on a promotion poster with my watermark cropped out (yes it was my image as I could still see the very edge of my watermark). After this happening numerous times I slapped the watermark right through the guts of it and have not had a single image used without permission or stolen by another photographer as their work (yes thats right, another photographer stealing my work and crediting themselves).

This i am afraid is the nature of our chosen industry.


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Apr 01, 2012 16:21 |  #10

stormjury wrote in post #14172914external link
This i am afraid is the nature of our chosen industry.

Amen to that! Watermarks through the middle it is.


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Apr 07, 2012 18:54 |  #11

You can hide water marks in the image in case you would ever need proof its yours, plus have one that's obvious and they won't know about the hidden one(s). Or you could somewhat hide them as to not ruin the photo, and it would be difficult to remove.


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Apr 08, 2012 01:52 |  #12

when your uploading hundreds of images from a sports event then trying to hide each one is just not viable for time. And if its used and I don't find it then its hard to chase it but when the watermark is somewhat visible then it cant be stolen in the first place and if it is still used then its clear who's owns it and in my case directs me to my site


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Apr 09, 2012 05:49 |  #13

Just think if it were in print and people scanned and used it for their own purposes. For many years people just ripped photos right out of print and they still do given the chance. So better to keep it digital, lock the binary bits in a vault and never print or share with anyone because the day you do it someone may steal it.

If anyone believes nobody can easily remove a watermark smack in the middle of an image with photoshop just post a tagged image think again.

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Aug 01, 2012 03:31 |  #14

It's, pretty easy to do this mith photoshop cs5. If you wan more details, just contact me


And btw you could simply make a flash gallery on your wordpress blog. You can download them. Yu have to make a picture of that, if i'm right

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isoMorphic wrote in post #14234175external link
Just think if it were in print and people scanned and used it for their own purposes. For many years people just ripped photos right out of print and they still do given the chance. So better to keep it digital, lock the binary bits in a vault and never print or share with anyone because the day you do it someone may steal it.

If anyone believes nobody can easily remove a watermark smack in the middle of an image with photoshop just post a tagged image think again.

I know, but, many amateurs can't do that, just the advanced and pros i guess


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Aug 01, 2012 08:42 |  #15

See what I did below? If I can do that for your forum post, I can do it for your posted images.

The key is that I can only grab your images at the maximum resolution that you've posted. Therefore, if you post small images (say 800px or less), that dramatically reduces the possible high quality uses for those images. 800px is certainly not sufficient to make a decent print of any size, though clearly web use is still possible.

There's simply no way around this: if you post your images on the web, they can be downloaded. Period.

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