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Old 5th of April 2012 (Thu)   #1
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Question How do you achieve this shot?

Hey all,

So I'm a n00b to the forums and this is my first post. I did not find a more appropriate category to post this in so here goes.

I've recently started becoming interested in automotive photography and have one quick question; how are shots like this (below) achieved with manual settings and no PS?



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not possible. that has to be an HDR shot. A combo of a slow shutter shot and a fast shutter shot. Unless the clouds are moving at the same speed as the car.
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not possible. that has to be an HDR shot. A combo of a slow shutter shot and a fast shutter shot. Unless the clouds are moving at the same speed as the car.
Really? I've heard of people achieving this without HDR. Maybe I misunderstood...
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I cant see how its possible to not have the clouds moving, even just a little bit. i see some of it on the edges but right in the middle is static. I mean, I dont know everything there is but I just cant imagine a way to do it otherwise.
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Hopefully someone else chimes in.
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You can achieve this type of shot without HDR. You can simply boost clarity or use the adaptive exposure slider in Topaz Adjust. Or you can work in layers and adjust contrast and saturation.

The clouds have no motion because of perspective. At the distance that the sky is in relation to the foreground it will appear not to move. Think of an airplane that's flying in the same direction that you're driving. You watch the airplane, as the scenery between you and the plane moves the plane stays stationary relative to you. It's just a matter of perspective.
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so this is a car to car shot?
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so this is a car to car shot?
Seems like it. It's what I was thinking originally as most automotive photographers do this.

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You can achieve this type of shot without HDR. You can simply boost clarity or use the adaptive exposure slider in Topaz Adjust. Or you can work in layers and adjust contrast and saturation.

The clouds have no motion because of perspective. At the distance that the sky is in relation to the foreground it will appear not to move. Think of an airplane that's flying in the same direction that you're driving. You watch the airplane, as the scenery between you and the plane moves the plane stays stationary relative to you. It's just a matter of perspective.
Thanks for the explanation katodog!
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The clouds have no motion because of perspective. At the distance that the sky is in relation to the foreground it will appear not to move. Think of an airplane that's flying in the same direction that you're driving. You watch the airplane, as the scenery between you and the plane moves the plane stays stationary relative to you. It's just a matter of perspective.
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You can achieve this type of shot without HDR. You can simply boost clarity or use the adaptive exposure slider in Topaz Adjust. Or you can work in layers and adjust contrast and saturation.

The clouds have no motion because of perspective. At the distance that the sky is in relation to the foreground it will appear not to move. Think of an airplane that's flying in the same direction that you're driving. You watch the airplane, as the scenery between you and the plane moves the plane stays stationary relative to you. It's just a matter of perspective.
^ this. Thats why tunnel shots or rollers with close backrounds seem to be moving faster than ones without. It looks like on the RWB pic, you can see a building or some strutcure in the distance that appears to not be moving as well


Also that looks like a rolling shot from a chase car, as opposed to a rig shot.
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Also that looks like a rolling shot from a chase car, as opposed to a rig shot.
I found out that that's what it is.
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I found out that that's what it is.
Glad i could help Generally speaking, You'll want a slow shutter speed for, relatively, for rollers. Im usually in the 1/30th- 1/60th range, depending on speed, setting etc. Probably the only time ive ever used shutter priority
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This shot is quite simple to setup if you know what you are doing. I however do not. I have been the driver of the chase car a couple times a long time ago(7-9 years). This was before I was even into photography.
The first setup was basically hand held from the passenger seat of my 328is. The results were cool but nowhere near this level. I would say camera shake, lack of knowledge/ability and rough roads were the downfalls.
The second and third time were shot from an SUV(explorer) that I was driving with a camera on a tripod in the back seat. A ten pound weight was attached to the tripod to hold it down and foam under the feet to give shock absorbtion. The results were way better but still not at this level. Very hit or miss type of results probably due to bumps, low level equipment and lack of knowledge.
The fourth and final time I participated was using a large SUV(yukon) with someone in the back seat. This photog knew what he was doing and nailed it. He shot handheld with a 1d2 and a 70-200 f2.8 IS. Only reason I know this is because 5 or 6 years after, i had gotten into photography and I had the same setup.
I have never attempted this type of photography so I have no clue what setting are/were used.
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It could be a composite of different shots as well.
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Rig shot??
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