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Old 16th of May 2012 (Wed)   #16
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Default Re: First time wedding shooter, flash question

You use ISO 1600 with flash because it drains batteries less and Improves recycle time.
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Old 16th of May 2012 (Wed)   #17
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Gotcha thanks! Lots of AA's will be in my pocket too!

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Old 16th of May 2012 (Wed)   #18
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Default Re: First time wedding shooter, flash question

Also, I'd keep it really simple. I've never used a battery pack for flash, just carry an extra set of batteries.

If it were me, I'd use the 10-22 all night at the reception. 580ex pointed at the ceiling with a bounce card. Flash in ettl mode. Camera Manual, 1/60, F/4, ISO 1600. This should be fine. If the images look too hot in the lcd you can go 1/80 and f/5.6. Also you could adjust the FEC, but if this is overwhelming, don't worry about that too much. Shoot RAW or at least SRAW.

I stay at the wide end a lot when people are dancing, but it's nice to zoom into 22mm for a nice spur of the moment portrait or group shot. Good luck.
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Default Re: First time wedding shooter, flash question

Thanks for the tips Adam. Now I just need to get my 10-22 back from Canon after it's fall and damage from my last trip.
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Old 17th of May 2012 (Thu)   #20
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Ambient light isn't usually good quality, and often wedding receptions are too dark to shoot ambient at all - ISO6400 F2.8 1/10th type exposures aren't acceptable. Bounce off walls and ceilings, don't diffuse.

Any time you say "i'll fix it in photoshop" be aware that you probably won't. You have to get it 99% right in camera.

This has disaster written all over it.
I agree 100%. Saying that "you'll just fix it photoshop" is never a good thing. Get it right in camera and you'll save yourself a ton of headaches!! My partner that shot with me at a wedding a few weeks ago, and he used that excuse when I looked at some of his shots and noticed they were a bit underexpose. Now that he's pulled them up on his monitor, he wishes he'd just gotten it right in camera! A little overblown is much better than underexposure....especially at a high ISO!
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I'm renting the 580EXII for the event. How come a high ISO is required indoors when using the flash. Also is it better to use a diffuser or bounce the flash indoors? I'll have the flash four days before the event. I just want to be able to take some decent shots and then let PS be my saviour.
High ISO is used to keep a balance between the flash and the ambient. Modern DSLR's perform pretty well at higher ISO's so dont be afraid of raising it a bit. When you get your flash, put it on, shoot a subject indoors at ISO 100 and ISO 800 or more and see the difference. Bounce is better than a diffuser if you have the option.
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That's great you want to help out a friend, but just make sure that they understand that you aren't really saving them any money. Instead they are just choosing a different level of quality in their end product. If you were saving them money that would mean they would be getting the same end product for cheaper.

Managing expectations should be a top priority with this one. Make sure they understand that if the quality isn't what they want, then it was their decision to not pay for a more experienced wedding professional as opposed to your fault. The last thing you want is for the friendship to be strained when all you were trying to do was help.

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Old 8th of June 2012 (Fri)   #23
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I hear you and believe me I've preached this to the groom many many times! They know what they're getting. I think I'll do alright. Even if I can get some decent shots then my mastery in PS will help me out. I also have a second shooter who's done weddings before and is a member here. With that I feel more than confident between the two of us we can get it done.

Tomorrow's the big day. I've went through everything, got the 580 EX II flash and tested it out. I think I'm good to go and hopefully I don't pee my pants! LOL


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That's great you want to help out a friend, but just make sure that they understand that you aren't really saving them any money. Instead they are just choosing a different level of quality in their end product. If you were saving them money that would mean they would be getting the same end product for cheaper.

Managing expectations should be a top priority with this one. Make sure they understand that if the quality isn't what they want, then it was their decision to not pay for a more experienced wedding professional as opposed to your fault. The last thing you want is for the friendship to be strained when all you were trying to do was help.

Good luck!
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How did it go? I'm in this exact predicament for the end of October. I have made it clear I don't do weddings, and have never shot one before (with the exception of a relative many moons ago when I didn't know what I was doing). I'm nervous, to say the least. I know I can pull it off, and they chose me because I don't over process. Still, I've made it clear that I just am not an experienced wedding photographer. I don't even do a lot of portrait work. Like you, I am landscape, still life, etc primarily. I'm familiar enough with lighting, but only have a cheap strobe and a 430 EX II. I may rent a 580 EX II for the wedding, but we will see. Would love to see some of what you shot! My venue is an outdoor wedding at sunset by a lake and the reception is n a barn. I'm scoping the venue out in the next week or two.
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