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russ925
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Jun 06, 2012 06:06 |  #1

I got a 430EXII for my birthday however wifey gave me the option to return it and go get a lens, Tamron 17-50 non -vc.

Question is do I keep the flash or go for the lens. Most of the pictures I take general, kids, vacations, car shows, etc. I have the 50 1.8 for portaits and the 55-250 for wildlife, aircraft photo's etc.

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Jun 06, 2012 06:44 |  #2

russ925 wrote in post #14538521 (external link)
I got a 430EXII for my birthday however wifey gave me the option to return it and go get a lens, Tamron 17-50 non -vc.

Question is do I keep the flash or go for the lens. Most of the pictures I take general, kids, vacations, car shows, etc. I have the 50 1.8 for portaits and the 55-250 for wildlife, aircraft photo's etc.

Thanks

you gotta have a flash
keep it and buy the Tamron (or Sigma) later

Then you can combine them !

XSi (450D)
Tamron 17-50 2.8 non-vc
with Yongnuo ETTL Flash on camera
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Jun 06, 2012 06:57 |  #3

Do you use flash at all ? If so, keep the flash, it would make more difference.

But as watt100 said, you really want both.


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Jun 06, 2012 07:26 |  #4

OF course I REALLY want both.....just not in the cards.
I have an old Sunpak flash but we are comparing a Honda to Mercedes when talking about a speedlite.

Nothing againest Honda's...I have one:)


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Jun 06, 2012 08:52 |  #5

russ925 wrote in post #14538697 (external link)
OF course I REALLY want both.....just not in the cards.
I have an old Sunpak flash but we are comparing a Honda to Mercedes when talking about a speedlite.

Nothing againest Honda's...I have one:)


if the flash is not ETTL then the advice is still you can do more with an ETTL flash and your current lens than a new lens, especially for "general, kids, vacations" etc.
But I won't deny it, having a sharp F2.8 zoom comes in handy at times

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Jun 06, 2012 10:06 |  #6

go for the lens for sure. Worst case scenario, you can use your popup flash.


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Jun 06, 2012 10:37 |  #7

Indoor pics of kids requires a flash, no matter how fast your lens. Keep the flash or trade it for a Yongnuo ETTL and you could have the lens and flash for less than $100 more than just the lens.


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Jun 06, 2012 11:42 |  #8

bob_r wrote in post #14539588external link
Indoor pics of kids requires a flash, no matter how fast your lens. Keep the flash or trade it for a Yongnuo ETTL and you could have the lens and flash for less than $100 more than just the lens.

meh, I get by without flash all the time. You can get by with pretty dimly lit conditions, save the most extreme cases like a dimly lit restaurant.

settings like 1/50, ISO 1600, F2.8 can get you by in fairly low light conditions


Sony A7rii x2 - FE 12-24/4 - FE 24-240 - FE 35/2.8 - CV 35/1.7 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - EF 135/1.8 Art - F 600/5.6 - CZ 35-70, 100-300 - Astro Rok 14/2.8, 24/1.4 - Tamron 28-75 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 VC

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Jun 06, 2012 12:10 |  #9

Charlie wrote in post #14539926external link
meh, I get by without flash all the time. You can get by with pretty dimly lit conditions, save the most extreme cases like a dimly lit restaurant.

settings like 1/50, ISO 1600, F2.8 can get you by in fairly low light conditions

Not shooting kids, which is the first subject the OP mentioned.


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Jun 06, 2012 12:25 |  #10

bob_r wrote in post #14540070external link
Not shooting kids, which is the first subject the OP mentioned.

I have three kids and shot with the 17-50 indoors for years. I still use a 2.8 lens and shoot indoors all the time. It's not like kids never settle down, they may seem like they're in motion all the time, but they do slow down.


Sony A7rii x2 - FE 12-24/4 - FE 24-240 - FE 35/2.8 - CV 35/1.7 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - EF 135/1.8 Art - F 600/5.6 - CZ 35-70, 100-300 - Astro Rok 14/2.8, 24/1.4 - Tamron 28-75 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 VC

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Jun 06, 2012 13:02 |  #11

indoors low light with 17-50

http://www.flickr.com ...7345720320/in/photo​streamexternal link
http://www.flickr.com ...160511179/in/photos​tream/external link
http://www.flickr.com ...160510547/in/photos​tream/external link


Sony A7rii x2 - FE 12-24/4 - FE 24-240 - FE 35/2.8 - CV 35/1.7 - FE 50/1.8 - FE 85/1.8 - EF 135/1.8 Art - F 600/5.6 - CZ 35-70, 100-300 - Astro Rok 14/2.8, 24/1.4 - Tamron 28-75 f2.8, 70-200 f2.8 VC

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Jun 06, 2012 17:18 |  #12

Your results could have been much better had you used a flash.


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Jun 06, 2012 18:19 |  #13

bob_r wrote in post #14541583external link
Your results could have been much better had you used a flash.

Charlie wrote in post #14540353external link
indoors low light with 17-50

http://www.flickr.com ...7345720320/in/photo​streamexternal link


much better?
not sure about that!
But it's true if you need a higher shutter speed then using a flash is a good thing




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