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Old 23rd of July 2012 (Mon)   #1
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Default Speedlite 90EX

So this looks interesting. Apparently, it can operate as a Master. I know it was designed for the new mirrorless, but might be a nice option instead of the ST-E2 for 1D/5D owners? It's only $150, can act as Master and still offer fill flash if needed. I wonder how much total control you will have over the flash via on-camera menus?

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Geez…why the _ell didn't they make this head at least tiltable of not tillable and swivalable Instead you can use it as a headlight with Master ability. Lovely.
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Swivel would have been nice. But it's the "pop up flash" for the M. It will likely contribute very little to exposure in master mode.
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Why this over a 270Ex2? I assume either works on the M?
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Why this over a 270Ex2? I assume either works on the M?
One reason is that the 90EX can act as master while the 270EX II can not.
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Now Canon just needs to add "Wireless RT" Slave capabilities and they would have a nice little flash for macro and other uses.
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Default Re: Speedlite 90EX

I wondered the same thing. But it says it will control canon speedlites wirelessly. Wirelessly as in infared or wirelessly as in RF?
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I wondered the same thing. But it says it will control canon speedlites wirelessly. Wirelessly as in infared or wirelessly as in RF?
Wireless means no wires. The Canon 90EX actually uses coded visible light signals, so it isn't really Infrared or RF.

Canon has just added a new RF capable system as well, but it is expensive and not built-in to the camera bodies.
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Wireless means no wires. Canon actually used coded visible light signals, so it isn't really Infrared or RF.
You are mistaken.

Flash based controllers like the 580 or the controller built into the 7D use the normal flash bulb so there is visible light being emitted but the flashes being controlled are only able to see the IR portion of the light from these flashes. Just take a look at the ST-E2 controller which has a filter over the bulb so it only emits IR light, not visible light.

Furthermore, Canon's most recent flash and controller, both of which were announced at the same time as the 5D mkIII, are radio based so lefturn99 has a valid question.
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So this looks interesting. Apparently, it can operate as a Master. I know it was designed for the new mirrorless, but might be a nice option instead of the ST-E2 for 1D/5D owners? It's only $150, can act as Master and still offer fill flash if needed. I wonder how much total control you will have over the flash via on-camera menus?

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None on the 5D as it doesnt have any in camera flash control menu.
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Wirelessly as in infared or wirelessly as in RF?
According to the listing on B&H, it is "Wireless Master Function (Optical)"
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But it's the "pop up flash" for the M. It will likely contribute very little to exposure in master mode.
If I am reading this correctly, it is much less powerful than a pop-up flash. The 7D pop-up flash offers coverage to 15mm and has a guide number of 39' feet while this thing has a guide number of 30' and offers 24mm coverage.
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You are mistaken.

Flash based controllers like the 580 or the controller built into the 7D use the normal flash bulb so there is visible light being emitted but the flashes being controlled are only able to see the IR portion of the light from these flashes. Just take a look at the ST-E2 controller which has a filter over the bulb so it only emits IR light, not visible light.

Furthermore, Canon's most recent flash and controller, both of which were announced at the same time as the 5D mkIII, are radio based so lefturn99 has a valid question.
I never have understood why some self proclaimed expert always wants to show up and have a pissing contest over the exact frequency of light that is used for Canons optical based system. Canon even states near IR light. What difference does it make? Isn't it close enough just to go with light based vs RF based? It never fails though, just start a thread on this subject and someone will come running and and tell everyone that they are WRONG.
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Default Re: Speedlite 90EX

Now that canon is making the pop up flash a commander, I'd like to see an inexpensive way to add that capability to the 5d2 etc. this might be it if supported in the menu system. Knowing Canon, it won't be.
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Now that canon is making the pop up flash a commander, I'd like to see an inexpensive way to add that capability to the 5d2 etc. this might be it if supported in the menu system. Knowing Canon, it won't be.
That's what this 90EX seems to be, except for that "inexpensive" thing.
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