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Dec 07, 2012 07:23 |  #31

Lbsimon wrote in post #15336013external link
I agree with most of it, except 1 and 7.

1. The 60D, as well as the latest Rebels and the 7D can (easily?) go to ISO 3200 with Post processing, like the Lightroom. When inside Roman cathedrals I used a Sigma 10-20 f/4-5.6, with good results.

I really don't know about "easily", 1600 is the highest I personally would use with the T2i/60D. 3200 is definitely high.


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Dec 07, 2012 08:20 |  #32

Apricane wrote in post #15337146external link
I really don't know about "easily", 1600 is the highest I personally would use with the T2i/60D. 3200 is definitely high.

If you use good noise reduction software, e.g., LR4, it is "easily". I just came back from vacation in Portugal, and shot the interiors of many buildings with ISO3200. But even ISO1600 allows the use of lenses slower than f/2.8.


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Dec 07, 2012 23:36 as a reply to Lbsimon's post |  #33

thanks for the reply's guys. I decided on the 15-85 so I could just take one lens. and because I don't plan on taking any pictures of moving people the IS on the 15-85 will let me hand hold 15mm in lower light than I could hand hold 11mm at 2.8. and this way I will only have to take one lens (I know I could use wider but really wanted to have some reach without having to change lens). We went with rain gear instead of umbrella's, and will just pack my camera up if it is raining and use the point and shoot. Really from all the research I have done says that there are only 14 days with some rain In January (based on 4 year averages it has only rained 3 of our 16 days and none of those all day), I am planing on rain every day but all research says that it will not rain much at all. January is there cold month but early spring and late fall is the wet season. Also managed to squeeze 2 more days out so will be doing 8 days Rome (with daytrips to Pompeii, and Hadrians Villa), 4-5 days Florence (with daytrips to Pisa and Siena) with the 5th day open to leave for Venice either in the early morning, or late at night makeing either the 5th day in Florence or 1st day in Venice, then 3-4 days in Venice depending on the last day in Florence (if we end up in Venice for 4 days will prolly use one of them for Verona).


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Dec 08, 2012 22:31 |  #34

There is not much to do in Venice for four days. You may want to spend two days there, and instead see more of Tuscany. From Florence you can make short trips to beautiful picturesque small towns, like San Gimininano (not to miss!), Cortona, Arezzo, etc. When in Piza, drive 20 more minutes and see Lucca, a very nice walled town.
You will want to wish you had bigger memory cards! :-)


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Dec 09, 2012 23:44 |  #35

One more thing to take:

8. (to my original 7 above) Take 50% more money than you think you will need. Food, especially, is really expensive and almost every eatery has a 1 to 3 Euro per person cover charge. So a typical meal might be a plate of pasta (7 to 10 Euros), a cappuccino (2 to 3 Euros), plus cover (1 to 3 Euros) and for two people, you are already at 30 Euros (about $39). Add a liter of bottled water (serves 2 for 2 to 3 Euros) or wine (more expensive) and you are over $40 for a meal that is not very fancy.

Enjoy the trip. We did.

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Dec 10, 2012 12:28 |  #36

I think you will be happy with the 15-85. I live in Italy as well, about an hour from Venice. I agree with what others have posted about too many days in Venice. No need for more than two. Too many other worthy cities to see. Plus it's not the cheapest place unless you want to eat at sidewalk shops the whole time.

You will probably find 3 days in Florence more than enough. I just spent the weekend there (well 24hours) and we walked the city a few times. I would throw in a day trip somewhere else. Pisa had the tower....that is it. Perugia or San Gimininano are worthy.


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Dec 10, 2012 14:44 |  #37

i just went this summer to the same three places and brought the 10-22 and 40 pancake. found that this combination worked very well for getting what i wanted and weight for all the walking. 10-22 was used ~80% of the time. samples below of when having the ultra wide was nice.

in rome:
vatican photos
colosseum and nearby ancient ruins

in florence:

IMAGE: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GEDkxDkiJM8/UE6qrhNs7bI/AAAAAAAAM60/Kd0AGSK_xPk/s400/IMG_7113.JPG
10 mm, 1/1600 sec, f/3.5

IMAGE: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-efJSGvqFLRc/UE6vQ2R-vQI/AAAAAAAAM-s/De32pNLIUc0/s400/IMG_7180.JPG
10 mm, 1/320 sec, f/3.5

in venice:
IMAGE: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TLLVcMEGlOQ/UFJx5ScXRdI/AAAAAAAANcQ/oLhpR7Y9Dng/s400/IMG_7560.JPG
10 mm, 1/2000 sec, f/3.5

IMAGE: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O4KBopGEIIA/UFJl0pqnVUI/AAAAAAAANSg/u7gTAcsiwMk/s400/IMG_7437.JPG
1/1600 sec, f/4.5

primary: 6D || 17-40/4L || 24-105/4L || 40/2.8 pancake || 70-200/2.8L is
secondary and travel: eos m || ef-m 18-55/3.5-5.6 || ef-m 22/2 pancake || ef-m to ef/ef-s adapter
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Dec 10, 2012 18:33 |  #38

Davis2001r6 wrote in post #15349348external link
I think you will be happy with the 15-85. I live in Italy as well, about an hour from Venice. I agree with what others have posted about too many days in Venice. No need for more than two. Too many other worthy cities to see. Plus it's not the cheapest place unless you want to eat at sidewalk shops the whole time.

You will probably find 3 days in Florence more than enough. I just spent the weekend there (well 24hours) and we walked the city a few times. I would throw in a day trip somewhere else. Pisa had the tower....that is it. Perugia or San Gimininano are worthy.

To the others that think 4 days is too much for Venice. I have read tons of guidebooks and spent hundreds of hours online researching these places and the overwhelming opinion is that anything less than 3 days to any of these city's you would not even be able to scratch the surface. and all the 3 day Itinerary's I find for Venice are such a breakneck pace that I think we will like the extra day to take it slower. and as far as Pisa goes I don't think anyone that had done any research before they went would have expeceted more than the 3 major buildings. We might squeeze a day from Venice (leaving 3) and go to Siena from Florence.


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Dec 10, 2012 18:37 |  #39

and the reason that we didn't go for more citys is that we didn't want to be spending too large of a chunk of our trip just traveling and checking in and out of hotels


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Dec 11, 2012 12:15 |  #40

During my two week trip to Italy, we stayed three nights in a vacation rental in Venice (as I said, one night more than I should have), and the rest in a villa in Tuscany just 15 km (9 miles) south of Siena. Both places were way way better that hotel rooms, and cost the same or even less than hotels of the same level. From there we did day trips to all of these towns. I hate checking in and out of the hotels too.


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Dec 11, 2012 17:29 |  #41

yah we definitely wanted to be staying in the citys (for the night life and the different pictures at night. and I know that the country around there is nice but that is not what we are going to Italy for. we live in a stunning place (Glacier park) and are going for the ancient architecture and art. If we get a chance to go back we might look more into modern Italian culture (how Italian's live), but for this trip that is not our goal.


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Dec 11, 2012 17:30 |  #42

and I have not seen any Villa's for about 40 usd a night which is what we paid for our rooms in all 3 citys. (if you are worried about the motel quality when traveling to someplace like Italy you are their for the wrong reason.


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Dec 12, 2012 19:21 |  #43

mine1 wrote in post #15354930external link
and I have not seen any Villa's for about 40 usd a night which is what we paid for our rooms in all 3 citys. (if you are worried about the motel quality when traveling to someplace like Italy you are their for the wrong reason.

I have been to Italy many times. Tried to help. Sorry.


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Dec 13, 2012 01:37 |  #44

No need to be sorry. I was just stating why we didn't stay in a Villa (along with the fact that we didn't want to have to transport into town every morning).


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Dec 13, 2012 12:42 |  #45

Well we all travel for different reasons, I'm sure you will love the trip. Hope the 15-85 works out great for you.


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