Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D

jamesonvermaat · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

Alright, tax returns are going to be coming and i am going to sell my d60 and buy either a 20d or a 1d the first one thats only 4.2 megapixels. I primarily shoot sports for a newspaper and i was wondering what you guys would suggest I go for. The 8 frames sounds like it would be nice but so would the 8 megapixels.......

Jon · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

Shooting for newsprint? Go for the 1D. 4.2 MP will be plenty for that, and you'll get the performance and ruggedness you want to make sure it keeps going while you're on assignment.

SuzyView · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

That 1D is really big. The 20D is so much lighter. Try them both. That 1D is a nice camera. Almost didn't want to hand it back to Rick.

SuzyView

jamesonvermaat · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

thanks, i cant wait to get a new body i have been waiting a long time now! and i just need my tax returns!

jamesonvermaat · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

i heard some stuff about the grip on the 20D always breaking?

SuzyView · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

I've heard that, but only from one person.

SuzyView - I don't have a grip, don't need it right now.

BobbyC · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

I believe the grip issue has been solved, just by a new one. Never had a problem with mine.

grego · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyC

I believe the grip issue has been solved, just by a new one. Never had a problem with mine.

It has. Buying new would assure you get one that properly works.

jamesonvermaat · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

how does the iso performance compare between the two cameras? anybody know? I saw a thread with some samples a while ago but i cant find it anywhere

grego · 9th of January 2006 (Mon)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesonvermaat

how does the iso performance compare between the two cameras? anybody know? I saw a thread with some samples a while ago but i cant find it anywhere

20D will win the battle. Different generations, so that's why you'll get the lesser ISO performance by the 1D. Howerver on print(newspaper print), noise isn't as big a deal, at least in my experiences.

gmen · 10th of January 2006 (Tue)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamesonvermaat

how does the iso performance compare between the two cameras? anybody know? I saw a thread with some samples a while ago but i cant find it anywhere

This one?

http://www.photography-on-the.net/fo...+noise+samples

---- Gavin

uktrailmonster · 10th of January 2006 (Tue)

The words "sports" and "newspaper" in the same sentence spell 1D to me. High frame rate and superior AF will easily outweigh the extra pixels.

Jon · 10th of January 2006 (Tue)

The 20D grip problems may, or may not, have been resolved. Canon never (officially) addressed the problem a number of people have reported where the grip lost electrical contact with the camera, causing lockups. Some members here have sent theirs back up to 5 times and still have the problem; others have never experienced it. There are also sporadic reports of "post-fix" grips still showing false low-battery warnings (which was the officially acknowledged problem), so that may still be an issue. I got one of the first grips but stopped using it because of the false low-battery warnings. It's been back for the service, but I just totally got out of the habit and never use it anyhow.

As I said above I really think that, even used, a 1D will be a better camera for press work than a 20D. It's got weather sealing and a higher frame rate, both of which will be helpful for someone who doesn't have a choice about being out shooting. It's also more rugged generally, and you'll appreciate that, especially over time.

Vita Rara · 10th of January 2006 (Tue)

Last night I was at an event and during the non-shooting part of the evening I had my 1D sitting on a bench next to me. I truly marvelled at it as I sat there. It is an amazing piece of precision equipment. It just does what you ask it with no fuss or muss.

Given that you are going to be shooting sports for print media I think the 1D would be the superior piece of equipment. It has the speed, and the amazing autofocus you're going to need. The 4.2MP will be no limit in a news paper setting. Personally for that usage I think it's superior to the Mark II or the 20D because the files are smaller, will take up less space, and are quicker to process if you shoot RAW.

Take care,

Mark

René Damkot · 11th of January 2006 (Wed)

1D, no doubt about it.

9th of January 2006 (Mon)	#1
jamesonvermaat Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 70	Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D Alright, tax returns are going to be coming and i am going to sell my d60 and buy either a 20d or a 1d the first one thats only 4.2 megapixels. I primarily shoot sports for a newspaper and i was wondering what you guys would suggest I go for. The 8 frames sounds like it would be nice but so would the 8 megapixels....... __________________ Jameson Canon D60, 70-200 f/4L, 420EX

9th of January 2006 (Mon)	#2
Jon Moderator Slayer of Trolls Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Kensington, MD USA Posts: 42,957	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D Shooting for newsprint? Go for the 1D. 4.2 MP will be plenty for that, and you'll get the performance and ruggedness you want to make sure it keeps going while you're on assignment. __________________ Jon ---------- EOS, PowerShot and Domke - it doesn't get any better than this! T90 and stuff \| F-1n, New F-1, FTb and more stuff out on loan Image Posting Rules and Image Posting FAQ Maryland and Virginia activities Report SPAM, Don't Answer It! (link) Marketplace Changes * IMPORTANT! *

9th of January 2006 (Mon)	#3
SuzyView Little Ms Moderator Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: VA, USA Posts: 23,182 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D That 1D is really big. The 20D is so much lighter. Try them both. That 1D is a nice camera. Almost didn't want to hand it back to Rick. SuzyView

9th of January 2006 (Mon)	#4
jamesonvermaat Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 70	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D thanks, i cant wait to get a new body i have been waiting a long time now! and i just need my tax returns! __________________ Jameson Canon D60, 70-200 f/4L, 420EX

9th of January 2006 (Mon)	#5
jamesonvermaat Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 70	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D i heard some stuff about the grip on the 20D always breaking? __________________ Jameson Canon D60, 70-200 f/4L, 420EX

9th of January 2006 (Mon)	#7
BobbyC Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Pearland, Tx. Posts: 274	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D I believe the grip issue has been solved, just by a new one. Never had a problem with mine.

9th of January 2006 (Mon)	#9
jamesonvermaat Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: minnesota Posts: 70	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D how does the iso performance compare between the two cameras? anybody know? I saw a thread with some samples a while ago but i cant find it anywhere __________________ Jameson Canon D60, 70-200 f/4L, 420EX

10th of January 2006 (Tue)	#12
uktrailmonster Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 465	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D The words "sports" and "newspaper" in the same sentence spell 1D to me. High frame rate and superior AF will easily outweigh the extra pixels. __________________ Canon D30, Canon G2, EF 24-85 F3.5-4.5, EF 75-300 F4-5.6 IS, EF 300 F4 L IS, iMac G5 20" + Canon i9100. Next upgrades will be a 350D and more glass

10th of January 2006 (Tue)	#14
Vita Rara Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Troy, NY, USA Posts: 231	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D Last night I was at an event and during the non-shooting part of the evening I had my 1D sitting on a bench next to me. I truly marvelled at it as I sat there. It is an amazing piece of precision equipment. It just does what you ask it with no fuss or muss. Given that you are going to be shooting sports for print media I think the 1D would be the superior piece of equipment. It has the speed, and the amazing autofocus you're going to need. The 4.2MP will be no limit in a news paper setting. Personally for that usage I think it's superior to the Mark II or the 20D because the files are smaller, will take up less space, and are quicker to process if you shoot RAW. Take care, Mark __________________ Mark Menard http://www.vitarara.org/ 1D Mark II; 300D; G6; EF 17-40 f/4L; EF 24-105 f/4L IS; EF 70-200 f/4L IS; EF 70-210 f/4; 28 f/2.8; 50 f/1.8 II; 85 f/1.8 USM; EF 100MM f/2.8 Macro; EF-S 18-55 f/3.5-5.6;

11th of January 2006 (Wed)	#15
René Damkot Moderator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: enschede, netherlands Posts: 25,755 IMAGE EDITING OK	Re: Canon 1D Mark 1 vs. Canon 20D 1D, no doubt about it.

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