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Uncertainty - A street shot

 
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Apr 30, 2013 00:44 |  #1

Not very experienced at street photography, but I saw the option at a family candid. What do you think? All done in ACR. Not very experienced with black and white conversions. I chose black and white since the color was somewhat distracting and didn't add to the photo, so I cut it.


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Apr 30, 2013 00:58 |  #2

Need to crop. I assume the little lady is the target since she's in focus? I'd just crop out all but her. Or maybe leave the scratch off since I'm thinking that might be part of it?


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Apr 30, 2013 00:58 |  #3

Interesting subject.... Sad in a way. Teaching the young girl to "invest" in the lottery.

I think this is either cropped too tight or too loose.

Too tight: parts of mom, daughter, and head of kid in stroller are cropped off. The larger scene might have changed the context.
Too loose: you could focus on the intensity of the girl (or mom) and her scratchwork.

A lower vantage point might have pulled them together, but at this range, DOF is still an issue. Something is going on along the right border. I can't figure it out.

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Apr 30, 2013 01:05 |  #4

I think you have a great subject and the potential to tell an interesting story but neither the composition or the crop do anything for me. I would have tried a repositioned shot but since this is what you have, try to figure out a crop that really brings the story you're trying to tell into focus.




  
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Apr 30, 2013 01:24 |  #5

Well uncropped, the right is just an out of focus tree. to the left is the out of focus arm of the dad with a loto ticket sitting on a backpack. I didn't get the kids head, and it was behind a balloon. I guess the only option I have is to crop tighter. The best option I found was a 1x1 crop, with a 4x5 being a close second. Any reason to use one over the other?

Two versions, one tight, and one tighter.

I also feel I should clarify what background I know. This was shot during a street fair in Los Angeles. There were tons of lotto ads and it is safe to say the lotto sponsered the event. Not sure how I feel about it. I guess uncertain.


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Apr 30, 2013 09:12 |  #6

like the bottom crop better, headed in the right direction


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Apr 30, 2013 13:49 |  #7

I think with just a girl this shot has no potential - the story "mother+daughter" is the ticket and for that you don't have enough in the shot - mother is cropped and off focus. I am not saying, that crop some parts of people does not work sometimes, but this is not the case, imo.

That's, if you want stronger story. If you're good with just a candid shot of a girl - might be different. But there are a lot of those out there ;)


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Apr 30, 2013 16:09 |  #8

I like the shot with both lady and girl. The scene for me is the girl helping her mom with the scratch offs.




  
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Apr 30, 2013 23:26 |  #9

osh_sekta wrote in post #15883393 (external link)
I think with just a girl this shot has no potential - the story "mother+daughter" is the ticket and for that you don't have enough in the shot - mother is cropped and off focus. I am not saying, that crop some parts of people does not work sometimes, but this is not the case, imo.

That's, if you want stronger story. If you're good with just a candid shot of a girl - might be different. But there are a lot of those out there ;)

So I get having the mom's head woulda been better. And also the guy that is completely out of the frame. And I dunno if it is the mom or grandma or aunt or whoever. Also they seem somewhat put together and the street fiesta going on was sponsered by the ca lottery and they were selling tickets during the thing. Presented in a vacuum I think it has one meaning, and with the context I just provided another. I like using the meaning of the first way, but I feel a bit bad about it.


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