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Someone has to do it: 7d vs 70D

 
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70D has just been announced. When we compare the specs with 7D, we see a lot of similarities (virtualy the same AF and frame rate). What surprised me was the fact that it's quiet reasonalby priced. It could have been worse. Price wise it is a direct competitor to the 7D.

Of course there are differences in features. 70D has tiltable touchscreen, Wifi and improved liveview AF. The 7d on the other hand has an important feature that 70D lacks - AFMA.

IQ wise 70D features an imrpved sensor with higher mp count which accounts for even higher pixel density. It also has the Digic V processor unlike the older model with its Digic IV. How does all that translate into High ISO performace only time and tests will tell...

I have a T2i at the moment and am looking at an upgrade, particularly due to AF for photography. Which one should I pick? he 7D offering me no gain in IQ, but much improved AF and with the help of AFMA, hopefully consistantly sharp images with fast lenses wide open.
Or should I take the 70D with probably marginally improved IQ but woth features I don't really care about?

Jul 02, 2013 05:15

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D 550D wrote in post #16083216external link
The 7d on the other hand has an important feature that 70D lacks - AFMA.

Not read the specs then?

Jul 02, 2013 06:09

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I just read through the spec list. I didnt see any mention of af micro adjustment. I also was curious about AEB, whether it can do 7 shots or only 3.
Also no mention of weather sealing or shutter life durability from what i could see

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Have a read, Canons own words.

http://www.canon.co.uk ...dex.aspx#p-specification4external link

Jul 02, 2013 06:14

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Regarding price comparisons, you cannot reasonably compare prices of a new 7D that is 4 years old to a newly announced camera. When the 7D first came out, it was $1700.

The best thing you can do is just wait out the release of the camera, and watch the reviews and comparisons that come out. My rule of thumb is usually to wait 1-2 months after a new camera has hit the streets before I decide to buy it. This gives time for the "honeymoon" to wear off. :D

My guess is that the AF won't be quite as good, as the 7D is still spec'd out better with its own dedicated AF processor, but the 70D will be about 1 stop better ISO, and very comparable to the 5D2. This new body could be nearly the perfect crop counterpart to the 6D, if it is 1 stop better.

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bfinta wrote in post #16083294external link
I just read through the spec list. I didnt see any mention of af micro adjustment. I also was curious about AEB, whether it can do 7 shots or only 3.
Also no mention of weather sealing or shutter life durability from what i could see

AF Microadjustment C.Fn II-13
+/- 20 steps (wide and tele setting for Zooms)
Adjust all lenses by same amount
Adjust up to 40 lenses individually
Adjustments remembered for lens by serial number

- AEB 2, 3, 5 or 7 Shots +/-3 EV 1/3 or 1/2 stop increments

One can safely assume the sensor is going to be more or less better, I mean it can't be worse than the 4 years old 18MP sensor right? Although just how good it is remains to be seen.

I would pick the 70D over the 7D if I'm upgrading from a Rebel. To me that's a no-brainer.

Jul 02, 2013 06:18

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70D has AFMA and it is weather sealed (to some degree). I am more or less sold, it is quite a leap from 550D. Just wish it would be available before September.

Jul 02, 2013 06:18

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I would go for the 70D because of it's newer technology and sensor, unless you want the better build quality of the 7D

Jul 02, 2013 06:24

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I'm in a forced upgrade situation and the now factor makes the 7d the right answer. Plus a refurbished 7d is several hundred dollars cheaper. That puts me in a good place buying the 7d without feeling like I made a bad choice.

I'm not sold on the touch screen for a camera. Does it only work in live view? Are pushing buttons any more difficult than touching the screen.

Jul 02, 2013 06:35 as a reply to Gert-JanS's post 10 minutes earlier.

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boufa wrote in post #16083342external link
I'm in a forced upgrade situation and the now factor makes the 7d the right answer. Plus a refurbished 7d is several hundred dollars cheaper. That puts me in a good place buying the 7d without feeling like I made a bad choice.

I'm not sold on the touch screen for a camera. Does it only work in live view? Are pushing buttons any more difficult than touching the screen.

I can see the 7D being the right choice. I think it all comes down to how you'd use the new features on the 70D.

As for touch screen, yeah, you can use buttons or screen to make adjustments. No benefit there afaiac. But the nice thing with touch screen is selecting your focus point. Not a must-have for me, but helpful at times.

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boufa wrote in post #16083342external link
I'm not sold on the touch screen for a camera. Does it only work in live view? Are pushing buttons any more difficult than touching the screen.

No. It can also be used during photo playback like swiping to next photo on a smartphone. Changing setting in the Q menu etc.

Jul 02, 2013 06:42

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The Digitalrev tv will compare it to the 7d and the Nikon d7100, once enough people tell them to do it, they will get it done, maybe Gordon lang at Camera labs may do it too!

Jul 02, 2013 06:58

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Id be interested except for the rear control layout. I hate the way its setup compared to the 7D and the touch sensitive wheel I dont like either. I like the way the 7D is setup with a real dial wheel that turns. I guess i will see what the 7D2 brings to the table if ever announced

Jul 02, 2013 07:17

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I suspect the markets for the 70D and a new 7D Mk2 are different, though there will always be some overlap.

I see lots of 60D owners interested in the 70D... sort of a natural upgrade, but I don't think many 7D owners will make the switch unless they end up doubting a 7D Mk 2 will ever be released and the 70D turns out to be special.

If I had to guess, I think Canon will announce/release a 7D Mk 2. I think it will have to rival the now discontinued 1D crop series since that void is still there.I wouldn't be surprised to see it become the go to sports/wildlife/aviati​on camera.

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Jul 02, 2013 07:37

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kin2son wrote in post #16083350external link
No. It can also be used during photo playback like swiping to next photo on a smartphone. Changing setting in the Q menu etc.

I finally set up my eye-fi card last night, and now when I take a pic and mark it as protected via the rate button, my Nexus 7 gets the image and I can view, swipe, and zoom, etc there. This may be my new preferred method of showing people pictures I have taken when they ask to see them.

But having that on the camera would be great too, I have not had the luxury of trying the newest bodies that have it to see how well it works.

Jul 02, 2013 07:52

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