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Sep 17, 2013 22:52 |  #1

So I am getting into portraiture, wedding photography and other situations in which I would like to use off camera flash. Here is what I want to do:

I have a 430exII and I want to get an alien bee b800. I want both to be off camera - ideally the 430 being the fill/catch light and the alien bee being the main light.

I would like to fire both wireless. I do not mind walking around and changing the settings manually so ttl is not required. However, I would like to have shutter speeds great than 1/250th so I think TTL is a must. Even then - can the b800 sync to fast than that or just the 430?

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Sep 18, 2013 03:53 |  #2

You won't be able to use the AB800 higher than your sync speed, and using the 430exII above the sync speed will greatly reduce its power. Your best bet is to look into other ways of getting what you need. If you need a high shutter speed because you want a large aperture, look into Neutral Density filters. If you need a high shutter speed to freeze action, then underexpose ambient and flash will freeze them. High-Sync-Speed (HSS) flash is rarely the best case.


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Sep 18, 2013 08:35 |  #3

You can work around that sync speed with POCKETWIZARD TTL stuff, and I'm sure some of the lesser-name triggers can as well...


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Sep 18, 2013 09:55 |  #4

Austin.Manny wrote in post #16305914 (external link)
You won't be able to use the AB800 higher than your sync speed, and using the 430exII above the sync speed will greatly reduce its power. Your best bet is to look into other ways of getting what you need. If you need a high shutter speed because you want a large aperture, look into Neutral Density filters. If you need a high shutter speed to freeze action, then underexpose ambient and flash will freeze them. High-Sync-Speed (HSS) flash is rarely the best case.

I realized last night that an ND filter would be the simplest and cheapest solution. I mainly want the fast shutter speed for larger aperture in a sunset/sunny environment.

I think the ND filter plus the Radio Popper JRX system is what I am going to go for.


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Sep 18, 2013 11:27 |  #5

You are aware that you'll need to purchased teh RPCube to use triggers with your 430 EX II, correct? It does not have an input for triggers. However, if you're crafty there are modifications you can make to the flash...

I customized mine about three years ago to add a 1/8" jack to use wireless triggers with it.


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Sep 18, 2013 11:37 |  #6

TheAnt wrote in post #16306634 (external link)
You are aware that you'll need to purchased teh RPCube to use triggers with your 430 EX II, correct? It does not have an input for triggers. However, if you're crafty there are modifications you can make to the flash...

I customized mine about three years ago to add a 1/8" jack to use wireless triggers with it.

Why does it have to be an RPCube? :confused:
Or are you using RPCube as a generic term to mean a hotshoe adapter?


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Sep 18, 2013 12:01 |  #7

PacAce wrote in post #16306672 (external link)
Why does it have to be an RPCube? :confused:
Or are you using RPCube as a generic term to mean a hotshoe adapter?

I have a 430 EXII and fire it with Pixel Kings along with my Einstein with no problems.


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Sep 18, 2013 12:46 |  #8

TheAnt wrote in post #16306634 (external link)
You are aware that you'll need to purchased teh RPCube to use triggers with your 430 EX II, correct? It does not have an input for triggers. However, if you're crafty there are modifications you can make to the flash...

I customized mine about three years ago to add a 1/8" jack to use wireless triggers with it.

To adjust it remotely I am getting it any way. The JrX system is on sale right now and it seems like the soloution for me as it is cheap, simple and small.


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