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Old 31st of January 2006 (Tue)   #1
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the shot needs a lot of sharpening.

Sorry me again.
The above is an extract from another forum on a photograph i submitted.
What I need to no is what is ment by 'sharpening' within software manipulation.

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Meaning "post process" the image using an image editor to apply some form of sharpening to improve the in camera capture and processing. With your permission, I can show what I mean.
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Also, for information the image is tagged as ARGB color, which isn't supported by a web browser, and tends to make the image look dull. Looks beautiful in Photoshop. To present this over the web you should use PS to Edit>Convert with sRGB IEC61966-2.1 as the destination space.
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About 1 degree of CCW rotation would be nice, as well.
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And clone out the dust spots on the sensor...jeez, we're picky.
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OK jfrancho,
Please do with as you wish but if you have the time please advise of the changes you make.
Also please confirm that the act of sharpening is applied to the whole image and not just certain parts.
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OK, Workflow:
Opened
Verified color space, Edit>Convert to Profile...Canel
Save as .psd
Image>Mode>16-bits/channel
Image>Mode>Lab color
New Curves Adj. layer
Added saturation to the a* and b* channels
Added contrast via s-curve to L*
Ran TLR Capture Sharpening script: Low Res., Medium, USM, 2, 3, 2, 0, 0
Flatten Image
Image>Mode>RGB color
Crop for rotation using rulers and crop tool
Use the Clone and Patch tools to fix sensor dust
Ran TLR Output Sharpening Script: Web, 800px.
Flatten
Convert to sRGb
Mode>8-bits/channel
Save as .jpeg, quality 12

It's a little over the top, but I wanted to be dramatice to demonstrate the point. There was nothing done locally or selectively using color adjustments and sharpening tools. The clone and patch were local fixes. But for the most part all the data was there for the manipulations.
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It's very over-exposed. Sharpening probably makes it worse.

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jfranco, if you shot film I bet it would be Velvia! A bit overshapened (see water in the foreground...looks quite artificial)
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Yep, in fact I used shoot slides of tropical fish. Like I said, it's over the top. The OP didn't say "fix this," he said show me some sharpening, plus there was the requirement that it be a global adjustment. Personally I'd crop out most of the water.
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Like this:
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Hope this attempt to share photo works...never did it this way before, using the location I just used...

Altered Curves, then reduced Saturation, then Unsharp mask with 150/0.3/6 with Photoshop LE (the only thing available on this computer I'm at)
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OK one more try then I quit trying...

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Firstly gents thanks for all the input on this.
Graham :- when you say over exposed do you mean in the 1st instance or after manipulation?

jfrancho:- Thank you for all the work you have put into this, looking at it to me it seems you need to become well versed in photo manipulation as well as learning the in's and out's of photography itself.

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