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17-50mm Tamron, 15-85mm Canon, or 24-105mm f4/L???

 
Intheswamp
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Nov 10, 2013 00:11 |  #1

I'm trying figure out a lens that will give me good service and improve my image quality from an equipment standpoint. Currently I have a 50mm f/1.8 MKI and an 18-135 EPS 3.5/5.6 IS. The three lenses I am considering are:

Tamron 17-50mm 2.8 non-vc
Canon 15-85mm
Canon 24-105mm f4/L
Sigma 17-50 OS (added to list)
Canon 17-55mm (added to list)


I use the 18-135 pretty much through all of it's length, but tend to work most towards the middle and in the wide angle region. I'm looking for a lens to more or less to keep on the camera all of the time. The 18-135mm that I have now stays on the camera 99%.

What I'm wondering is will I see a great improvement in image quality between those first two lenses and my current 18-135mm? Of those two I'm leaning more heavily towards the 15-85mm, but it is rather close to my current zoom...is the image quality of it that much better?

The Tamron gets good reviews for image quality, but whichever lens I get I hope to keep it a long time and I've heard the Tamron is built a bit lighter than the Canon.

Lastly, will the 24-105mm L lens "blow the other lenses away"? White box 24-105mm's can be gotten for close to the same price as the 15-85mm.

I'm a hobbiest and my shooting runs from street scenes to landscapes to people to...it's varied. ;) I know a single lens will not cover everything, but I'm looking for the "it stays on my camera most of the time" lens....and one that will produce good image quality.

Anybody want to throw their opinions at me so I can get more confused? :D

Thanks,
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Nov 10, 2013 00:44 |  #2

Both the tamron 17-50 and Canon 15-85 are great "stay on the camera most of the time" lenses

The big difference between then is focal length and aperture.

If you just want a general walk around lense and don't care about speed (again speaking of aperture here) then the 15-85 is a great lens option. If you need a constant f2.8 then any of the 17-5X lenses are a far better choice.

I don't know which 18-135 you have but I've used the STM version and its actually a really good lens. I don't think there is much, if any, difference in sharpness between it and the 15-85.

As for the 24-105. It's a good lens but I don't think it will blow away any lens. I owned it for a while and it was a nice lens with good sharpness but but it wasn't amazing by any means. Plus 24mm isn't that wide on a crop. Some people don't need wide, but you mentioned landscapes so you probably do.

Another lens I might suggest is the sigma 17-70 C. Again I doubt you'll see much, if any improvement over the 18-135 (depending on if you own the STM or older version) but you gain speed (aperture of f2.8-4)

EDIT: I'm an idiot. You did say that you hve the older version. So the simple answer is yes, any of those lenses will show an improvement over the 18-135 you have. But that also leaves the option of the 18-135 STM open if you really love that focal range!

Personal opinion, I'd go with the 17-50. But that's me and I like a constant f2.8 (actually I like a constant f1.8 as I replaced my 17-70 OS with the 18-35 f1.8). Again, my opinion. My needs and wants might be different then yours.




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bruc3
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Nov 10, 2013 01:48 |  #3

If I had to pick between those 3 lens, I would say go for the 17-50 for constant f2.8.




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Nov 10, 2013 02:10 |  #4

Don't be fooled by marketing, L lenses are not always perfect or necessarily better than non-L lenses. The 17-55mm for example is a better lens than the 24-105mm, take a look at this on a 60D.
http://www.the-digital-picture.com ...omp=0&FLIComp=1&API​Comp=2external link

The 17-55mm 2.8 is the best EF-S lens out there and is on par with a great many L lenses in optics. The 15-85mm is a good lens too, but is merely 'almost' up to an L lens in optics. ;)


The 10-22mm is another EF-S lens with optics comparable to an L lens, see how it compares to the full frame equivalent, the 17-40mm.
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Nov 10, 2013 02:59 |  #5

Mornnb wrote in post #16438841external link
The 17-55mm 2.8 is the best EF-S lens out there and is on par with a great many L lenses in optics.
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It was previously the best EF-S lens out there, but now arguably may be considered second best to the Sigma 18-35 :P




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Nov 10, 2013 07:15 as a reply to bruc3's post |  #6

Thanks for the response everybody! Keep it coming! :)

I'll add the Canon 17-55mm to the list...a bit more pricey, but I doubt I'll be buying any more lenses for a long time after this. I'll give the Sigma a peek, too.

Yes, my 18-135mm isn't the STM version.

Thanks again!
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Nov 10, 2013 09:31 |  #7

Intheswamp wrote in post #16439136external link
Yes, my 18-135mm isn't the STM version.

Well, if you really like the 18-135 range, then give the STM version a good look. It's quite a hit better then the older version and price difference between the two on the used market is only about $100

In the 17-5X range there are three good choices: canon 17-55, sigma 17-50 OS, and tamron 17-50 non-VC. Of them I personally think the sigma is the best choice. It's IQ is very close to the canon (doubt most people could tell the difference between photos taken with both) and its a few hundred less then the canon

The sigma 18-35 is an amazing lens. But again if you like the 18-35 range you will not like it very much..... Or at all as it seems like its not a focal range you use very much. It's expensive, heavy, and has a short focal range. It is however extremely sharp and very fast.




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Nov 12, 2013 08:14 |  #8

Intheswamp wrote in post #16438716external link
I'm a hobbiest and my shooting runs from street scenes to landscapes to people to...it's varied. ;) I know a single lens will not cover everything, but I'm looking for the "it stays on my camera most of the time" lens....and one that will produce good image quality.

For the above, I would say the 15-85.




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Nov 12, 2013 11:11 |  #9

The most bang for your buck would be the Tamron 17-50 non-VC.

If you can swing the cash then the ef-s 17-55 f/2.8.

Between the ef-s 15-85 & 24-105L I would choose the latter for constant f/4 and future use on a full frame. My copy of the 24-105L is very sharp.


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Nov 12, 2013 11:41 |  #10

Here's a thread I had that just 'ended' with a lot of thoughts on all these lenses, probaby has all your answers. I ended up with a 15-85 due to the longer zoom and the lower cost, but I think (and hope not) I am going to regret not getting the 17-55 due to the f2.8.
There are many comments in it about the Tamron and the L lens too. I didn;t go for the Tamron because of the zoom (50), and I didn't go for the L because of the low zoom (24) and the cost. I wasn't worried about going to ff in the future, buying these lenses used I feel I can sell it for about what I paid for it if I do move on.

http://photography-on-the.net .../showthread.php?t=1​339896


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rdguy
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Nov 12, 2013 17:32 |  #11

I would recommend the 15-85mm. I bought one in March to replace my 17-85mm lens and I find it to be not only sharp but a good walk around lens. From the reviews I have read about the 15-85 it is as close to an L series lens you can get without the L series price tag. I also recently compared it to the 24-105 F4 lens and my findings were that the 24-105 was sharp at 50mm and the 15-85 was sharp at wide and zoom ends. If you are using a cropped sensor camera the 15mm side of the 15-85 will make you happy. I am using it on 7D.
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Nov 12, 2013 18:05 |  #12

Out of those on your list I would also recommend the 15-85. IQ is pretty much on par with the 17-55 but the range is much more useful. With the 17-55, if you're like me, you'll me swapping lenses a lot.

Another suggestion is the Sigma 17-70 2.8-4 C which was mentioned above. I went with the older version of this lens when I was on crop because it offered a nice compromise between range and aperture. I'd do the same again if I went back to crop.


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Nov 12, 2013 20:30 as a reply to Sirrith's post |  #13

I can't imagine buying any one lens to stay on the camera all the time. How about buying an SX-50?


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Nov 12, 2013 20:56 |  #14
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Had the 15-85 before and hated every second of it.

17-55 is simply overpriced for what it is.

I'd take Tamron 17-50 + 85 1.8 for the price of 17-55 thank you.


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Nov 12, 2013 22:05 |  #15

kin2son wrote in post #16447035external link
Had the 15-85 before and hated every second of it.

17-55 is simply overpriced for what it is.

I'd take Tamron 17-50 + 85 1.8 for the price of 17-55 thank you.

So I have to ask (because I think this is the first bad thing I have ever heard said about the 15-85 by someone that owned it (other than the usual vignetting and distortion, slow aprature (which are all things pretty much everyone knows about beforehand), what was it that you hated about the 15-85?


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