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Canon 5D III vs. Nikon D800E Test

 
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Lowner wrote in post #16492207 (external link)
Only a few?

No, all manufacturers have problems, its the nature of the beast.

Really? Can you please point out where Canon's manufacturing/design has ruined the first few thousand pictures generated by the camera? Thinking specifically of the Nikon D600 dust and oil problem.


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Dec 01, 2013 07:24 |  #257

Bakewell wrote in post #16492220 (external link)
Really? Can you please point out where Canon's manufacturing/design has ruined the first few thousand pictures generated by the camera? Thinking specifically of the Nikon D600 dust and oil problem.

Consider the blue dot issue, where Canon had to spend a huge amount of time working on an AF fix.


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Dec 01, 2013 07:32 |  #258

I think it's safe to say that both camera manufacturers have had loads of issues on new releases. I think Canon learned it's lesson with the infamous 1DIII focus issue that hiding your head in the sand is never a sound recovery strategy. When the 5DII issue popped up, they were pretty quick to admit it and though the fix was slow in coming, they did release several press releases indicating that they were aware of the issue and were working a fix. Nikon hopefully learned the same lesson with the oil issue.


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Dec 01, 2013 07:56 |  #259

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When the 5DII issue popped up, they were pretty quick to admit it and though the fix was slow in coming, they did release several press releases indicating that they were aware of the issue and were working a fix. Nikon hopefully learned the same lesson with the oil issue.

I assume you mean 5D3.


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Dec 01, 2013 08:07 |  #260

Bakewell wrote in post #16492220 (external link)
Really? Can you please point out where Canon's manufacturing/design has ruined the first few thousand pictures generated by the camera? Thinking specifically of the Nikon D600 dust and oil problem.

Here you go...take a read. 25% of the poll had oil spots on the sensor and viewfinder of their 1dx. And to boot, Canon is not doing anything about it. That's a $6500 camera.

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/12506​98 (external link)




  
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Dec 01, 2013 08:09 |  #261

gjl711 wrote in post #16492340 (external link)
I think it's safe to say that both camera manufacturers have had loads of issues on new releases. I think Canon learned it's lesson with the infamous 1DIII focus issue that hiding your head in the sand is never a sound recovery strategy. When the 5DII issue popped up, they were pretty quick to admit it and though the fix was slow in coming, they did release several press releases indicating that they were aware of the issue and were working a fix. Nikon hopefully learned the same lesson with the oil issue.

I'm not sure they learned anything. There is an ongoing oil issue with the 1dx and a well known issue with the 24-105 lens that they have done squat to fix.




  
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Dec 01, 2013 08:29 |  #262
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Hogloff wrote in post #16492403 (external link)
Here you go...take a read. 25% of the poll had oil spots on the sensor and viewfinder of their 1dx. And to boot, Canon is not doing anything about it. That's a $6500 camera.

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/12506​98 (external link)

Not even close to the D600 issue... Can' give those things away now.


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Dec 01, 2013 08:38 |  #263

Bakewell wrote in post #16492442 (external link)
Not even close to the D600 issue... Can' give those things away now.

Yes...but if you spent $6500 for a professional grade camera and it starts coughing up oil and Canon buries their head in the sand...I think you would be singing a different tune.




  
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Dec 01, 2013 08:46 |  #264
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Hogloff wrote in post #16492450 (external link)
Yes...but if you spent $6500 for a professional grade camera and it starts coughing up oil and Canon buries their head in the sand...I think you would be singing a different tune.

So your saying they refused to fix it and it plagued every camera and eventually manufactured a replacement model to remedy the problem? If that's true then I agree...


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Dec 01, 2013 08:54 |  #265

Bakewell wrote in post #16492457 (external link)
So your saying they refused to fix it and it plagued every camera and eventually manufactured a replacement model to remedy the problem? If that's true then I agree...

Nope...does not plague every camera...but what if it was an issue on YOUR camera and Canon did nothing to remedy the problem. You be happy with that?

From the poll on FM, 25% of the respondents have the oil issue...that is not a random event...that is a problem.




  
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Bakewell wrote in post #16492457 (external link)
So your saying they refused to fix it and it plagued every camera and eventually manufactured a replacement model to remedy the problem? If that's true then I agree...

Yes Nikon screwed up royally on D600/D610 debacle but thats not to say Canon hasn't had its issues in the past. When you manufacture on this scale you cant be perfect




  
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Dec 01, 2013 08:58 |  #267
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Hogloff wrote in post #16492467 (external link)
Nope...does not plague every camera...but what if it was an issue on YOUR camera and Canon did nothing to remedy the problem. You be happy with that?

From the poll on FM, 25% of the respondents have the oil issue...that is not a random event...that is a problem.

No doubt...just not anywhere to the extent of the D600. BTW 25% of a poll on a photography forum probably translates to MAYBE 5% of total sales...


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Bakewell wrote in post #16492470 (external link)
No doubt...just not anywhere to the extent of the D600. BTW 25% of a poll on a photography forum probably translates to MAYBE 5% of total sales...

But still a problem none the less. And 5% is huge.




  
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Dec 01, 2013 09:09 |  #269
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CanonVsNikon wrote in post #16492473 (external link)
But still a problem none the less. And 5% is huge.

I don't think anyone claimed Canon was perfect...just closer than Nikon.


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Dec 01, 2013 09:35 |  #270

pwm2 wrote in post #16492387 (external link)
I assume you mean 5D3.

Actually I was thinking about the black spot issue early on with the 5DII. I had totally forgotten about the 5DIII light leak issue.
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