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airbuko
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Aug 04, 2014 06:04 |  #1

I've found this project on internet. Idea seems to be very good. What do you think?

https://www.kickstarte​r.com ...olutionary-flash-diffuserexternal link


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Aug 04, 2014 06:49 |  #2

I would´t use it.

To get softer light you need large modifier, this is tiny.

For effective bouncing you need directional control and often all the power you can get, nothing beats bare flash for that.

When they compare this device and bare flash (mannequin and flower) it looks like bouncing the device versus direct flash. How soft would it look like with bounced flash?


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Aug 04, 2014 07:00 |  #3

Nonnit wrote in post #17074980external link
I would´t use it.

To get softer light you need large modifier, this is tiny.

For effective bouncing you need directional control and often all the power you can get, nothing beats bare flash for that.

When they compare this device and bare flash (mannequin and flower) it looks like bouncing the device versus direct flash. How soft would it look like with bounced flash?

The problem with bouncing with bare flash is that without flagging the light somehow, is that some direct bare light will inevitably hit your subject, and you don't get a fully directional light source. This is the reason I really like the flash bender, as you can contain the spread of the light, allowing only the directional light, bounced off a wall or ceiling, to expose your subject.

The little door that opens looks like it will flag a good amount of the light, though it looks a little small. The main diffuser, however, doesn't appear to flag the light. The ability to bounce the flash in two different directions is interesting though!


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Aug 04, 2014 07:13 |  #4

mystik610 wrote in post #17074996external link
The problem with bouncing with bare flash is that without flagging the light somehow, is that some direct bare light will inevitably hit your subject, and you don't get a fully directional light source. This is the reason I really like the flash bender, as you can contain the spread of the light, allowing only the directional light, bounced off a wall or ceiling, to expose your subject.

The little door that opens looks like it will flag a good amount of the light, though it looks a little small. The main diffuser, however, doesn't appear to flag the light. The ability to bounce the flash in two different directions is interesting though!

I agree that flagging the light forward can be useful, I sometimes use my hand for that. With flagging I mean blocking the light going forward to get rid of reflections from shiny surfaces.

I am not seeing any flagging here.

Edit: Ok, I see what you mean but there are plenty of ways to flag the light forward.

http://neilvn.com ...s/the-black-foamie-thing/external link


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Aug 04, 2014 07:19 |  #5

What amazes me is how much one can charge for some molded plastic!


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Aug 04, 2014 07:33 |  #6

Nonnit wrote in post #17074980external link
To get softer light you need large modifier, this is tiny.

My thoughts exactly..


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Aug 04, 2014 07:39 |  #7

Curt1591 wrote in post #17075033external link
What amazes me is how much one can charge for some molded plastic!

Because unless you are making a very large run of a product, molded plastic designs are NOT cheap. I have an idea for gelling a flash quickly & easily, my research into getting it made has been an eye opener for start up costs...
I thought the same as you until I found out why...and remember, compared to the overall consumer market, something like this is only going to appeal to a small subset of that market...


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