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Aug 06, 2014 21:21 |  #1

I haven't really posted here lately. I've been bitten by the film bug and have been spending a lot of time fooling around with all sizes of film cameras, from 35 mm up to large format.

I even have a full darkroom, complete with two enlargers (I DID say I was bitten, and pretty bad ).

Anyway, I just received a scanner and the last couple of days have been shooting film, developing and trying to digitize a few negatives. I thought I'd post a few examples here.

I'll continue to shoot color with my DLSR, but for black and white, it will have to be film from now on.

First off, here are a couple I just finished scanning.

This one was taken with a Mamiya RB67 medium format camera and a KL 180mm F4.5 lens with a red filter. Film is Fomapan 200 (arista edu 200) developed in Rodinal at 50:1.

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This one was taken with my Rolleichord Vb medium format (TLR) camera. Shot on Fomapan 100.

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Here are a few I shot in the past few days. This time with a new to me large format camera, a Zone VI 4x5. It is a beauty of a camera and it is hard to take pictures with it. Not because of the camera itself, but because of all the people that show up and talk your ear off, making it hard to actually take a picture

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And one of my new pride and joy itself, the Zone VI 4x5.

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Aug 06, 2014 23:47 |  #2

Good on you for keeping film alive. I'd love a dollar for every roll or sheet of film I shot and processed. I haven't shot film since 2005.

I used to work at the photographic unit of a large heavy industry plant, in the 1970s and 80s. Between four photographers we would hand print around 9,000 to 12,000 B/W prints per year. I know as I was doing the ordering off materials. Post card size up to 60' x 40' posters. Colour stuff went to a lab. 35mm to 4x5 and most formats in between.

I seriously toying with the idea of going back to 4x5 B/W again. Another Sinar P2 (wish I didn't sell my first one) with Schneider glass will fit the bill.


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Aug 10, 2014 07:02 |  #3

Someone at work is trying to sell me a good condition Sinar F1 complete with 3 (I think!) lenses. details of the lenses are on my work PC, but they were all schneider.

Not sure about price yet, my main question is about film and processing. I'm only interested in B+W, what's you workflow? How did you get from putting in the film to a digital image on here?

Thanks!


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Aug 10, 2014 07:25 |  #4

nellyle wrote in post #17087104 (external link)
Someone at work is trying to sell me a good condition Sinar F1 complete with 3 (I think!) lenses. details of the lenses are on my work PC, but they were all schneider.

Not sure about price yet, my main question is about film and processing. I'm only interested in B+W, what's you workflow? How did you get from putting in the film to a digital image on here?

Thanks!

With 4x5 as you are only processing a couple of sheets at a time, you can do this in developing trays. You should still be able to buy small developing trays used to develop post card sized prints. The only disadvantage is you have to do this in total darkness.

You have to be careful you don't over or under agitate the film. This will take a little experimentation. You can process two sheets at a time (handy as more than likely you'll be using 'double dark' sheet film holders). Remove the film from the double darks and slide them into the developed back to back, not emulsion to emulsion. Rock one side of the developed tray to ensure the sheets are covered with developer. Don't be afraid getting your hands wet. Gently poke your index finger onto the film to ensure film is totally submerged. And I mean gently. Gently rock one side of the tray every minute or so to agitate.

You'll need three trays,,, developer, stop bath and fixer. Once the film hits the fixer you can turn the lights on. I used to develop 4x5' and 6x4' lithographic film using this method with good results, although a red safe light is allowed. 4x5 film was processed in racks in deep tanks.

Double dark sheet film holder.

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Aug 10, 2014 08:04 |  #5

Thanks for that, I'm assuming the next step is to scan?


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Aug 10, 2014 10:13 |  #6

nellyle wrote in post #17087159 (external link)
Thanks for that, I'm assuming the next step is to scan?

Do you have a macro lens?


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Aug 10, 2014 14:22 |  #7

I do indeed. Photograph the negs?


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Aug 10, 2014 15:06 |  #8

I started with a Macro lens and s DSLR. That worked great for 35mm and medium format, but I had trouble digitizing large format that way.

I ended up biting the bullet and ordering a V750 scanner. I am SO happy I did as I can really see much better results with all my negatives now, compared with macro lens and light table setup.

The main problem I had with the macro lens setup was stitching the images together. It took 9 images stitched to make a 6x7 medium format image using an APS-C sensor camera and 9 images stitched to make a 4x5 image using a full frame sensor, both using a macro-Takumar 50mm F4 lens.

The stitched images didn't give very good skies, there was always a problem getting and even, clear image in large expanses. An example is this one I did, my first digitized 4x5 image.

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The scanner seems to get more information from the negative, and much "cleaner" skies since you don't have to stitch images together. This is a 4x5 image I finished last night.

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Aug 10, 2014 20:54 |  #9

nellyle wrote in post #17087700 (external link)
I do indeed. Photograph the negs?

Yes,, that works.


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