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How do you break into the editorial and commerical world?

 
CRCchemist
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Dec 24, 2014 22:54 |  #16

DThriller wrote in post #17346322external link
Hey this is an interesting thread. I'm most likely in the camp of "many photographers arnt ready for commercial work" - sspellman. At this level is it wrong to work with relatively new models tfp to gain experience and network? I feel like I could charge models but it seems I would get less models wanting to work with me and it seems we both just want experience so what's the harm. This of course is at odds with the "free is a kiss of death".


No, it won't be a kiss of death like I said because you aren't building your professional reputation around being the free photographer guy. But what you'll find when you work with free models is that they're absolutely terrible models. They have no clue what they're doing and they are also quite flaky.

But you will get good practice out of how to properly light a person and how to do some brief development of your shots. For the high end stuff, I mostly use a professional retoucher because they're better and it's not working on my own time (the client pays for the retouching.)




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Mar 09, 2015 03:18 |  #17

Except for a few people who've been lucky enough to be at the right spot, with the right work at the right time most photographers have spent years in the business to build their reputation, their profile and their capability. Start with any small gig, and keep working on personal projects to keep improving and developing your book. Shoot any work that comes your way to keep the loan sharks away and only add that work which will help you in the long run. Ignore everything else as a day job to forget.


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Aug 13, 2015 19:54 |  #18

This is a good topic. I'd really like to hear more input on this.


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Jan 02, 2016 16:53 |  #19

I wonder what happens next when you make it. Are you still an indipendent photographer or you get hired by a magazine and get paid a monthly salary plus the benefits (flight tickes, hotels)?

What kind of contracts are out there?




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Mar 27, 2017 12:38 |  #20

My background is in wedding photography and am just breaking into commercial work in NYC. Quite honestly since I'm new to this area of photography I don't know how people structure their fees when it comes to commercial work, I mean is it by the hour, by the number of photos delivered, how much would you charge say for a 3-4 hour shoot for a women's Jeans line for a company's website and lookbook (maybe 50 editorial shots)? I assume its higher than an ordinary event or portrait shoot since a company will be using it in advertising. Advice from people in the field ???


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Mar 27, 2017 23:57 |  #21

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Village_Idiot wrote in post #17326018 (external link)
Personally, when I say commercial and editorial I'm thinking along the lines of magazine assignments and photography for businesses like the local Casino (it's huge), certain bars and night clubs, and other businesses and not so much model specific photography.

It has been a couple of years since you posted these aspirations - how have these pursuits been going for you? Please discuss some of your biggest successes, as well as some of your most disappointing failures.

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Village_Idiot wrote in post #17347142 (external link)
A friend of mine who opened a local higher end steak house contacted me and told me to go talk to his manager. I will be shooting their place most likely the second weekend in January.

I was also referred to a cheese cake shop that opened up downtown.

How did that steakhouse shoot go? Did they pay you the "going rate" for commercial work, or did they try to cheap out because they knew you were new at it?

How about the shoot at the cheese cake shop? Did that referral ever pan out? If so, were you paid properly for providing a professional service/product?


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Village_Idiot wrote in post #17335499 (external link)
I started working on a book with a friend of mine that’s going to feature local business owners and their businesses. I figure besides being a good jumping off point for having a dedicated project to invest my time in, that contacts with the business owners will have the opportunity to bring in new business.

How did the book project go? Is there anywhere online where we can see the book for sale? What were the names of the businesses you featured? I would love to hear all about this project!

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Mar 31, 2017 09:29 |  #22

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18312914 (external link)
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It has been a couple of years since you posted these aspirations - how have these pursuits been going for you? Please discuss some of your biggest successes, as well as some of your most disappointing failures.

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How did that steakhouse shoot go? Did they pay you the "going rate" for commercial work, or did they try to cheap out because they knew you were new at it?

How about the shoot at the cheese cake shop? Did that referral ever pan out? If so, were you paid properly for providing a professional service/product?

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How did the book project go? Is there anywhere online where we can see the book for sale? What were the names of the businesses you featured? I would love to hear all about this project!

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Tom I to am curious how this all turned out.




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