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Hi there,
I'm looking to enter Photography again, and I've kind of fallen in love with these two cameras. Oviously I would just go for the EOS20D - But money won't allow me to! So, my question to you is - FujiFilm S9500 vs EOS350D ? Pros and Cons of each etc? Many thanks Amnesia |
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If you are comfortable with a camera with an electronic view finder such as the Fuji, then you should seriously look at the new Sony R1. Here are a couple of reviews:
http://luminous-landscape.com/review.../sony-r1.shtml http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscr1/ |
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I was kind of hoping for it to be a digital camera - I didn't know it was film!
What an idiot. |
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They both are digital cameras, so I have no idea where you got the idea they were film........umm
I would recommend the fuji, because they make great optics. When Hassleblad lost their Zeiss deal some time ago, they went to Fuji for their optics. Anyone with a 50x series will tell you. Of course those people still want the Zeiss Unless of course you really need removeable lens, these Pro-Sumer are great. However I wouldn't recommend the Canon Pro IS series...they are big time laggers. If budget is your #1 concern...go with the Fuji. |
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I think it depends on
1 your budget 2 your exerience 3 what you intend to shoot I came from the fuji s9500s predecessor the s7000 which for me was a good learning exprience , and in the newer Fuji i believe they have addressd the issues of slow start up and shutter lag. The Fuji is great prosumer camera , the 350D a great entry level DSLR
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Well,
As you guys are saying about budget etc... Here is the answer to your questions My Budget is around £600 - £700 MAXIMUM. (Preferably around £500 - £600). My Experience is very little. I have a Fuji Finepix 4700zoom. And have just taken shots on Auto all the time. I intend to shoot anything and everything, I really want to get into photography and develop the skills properly. Hope this can help a little more |
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For what its worth, I had the Fuji S7000 and liked it except for the noise (it's not a dSLR after all!) and the colors were a lot like the Fuji Velvia film. I thought it was wierd but some people seem to like it. It was a decent performer for what it was, and the S9500 I'm sure would be at least a bit better. I recommend it if you cannot afford additional lenses and can live with the digital viewfinder.
If you plan to shoot sports (or anything fast and far away), you'll want to wait and save up for the XT (decent..I use 2) or 20D (preferable) and some good telephoto lenses. Sports shooting doesn't come cheap no matter which way you slice it. You need a fast camera and fast optics. There's no way around it.
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And what do you mean "live with a digital viewfinder".
Are these bad? |
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Quote:
The 350D has an optical viewfinder (all dSLRs do) which means you see exactly what you get, in real time, through the lens. |
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Anything modern will be a big jump up from the venerable FinePix 4700 Zoom. I've got one of those - in fact, it lives in the bottom of my bag, as it's always useful to have a camera with me, and sometimes someone else has the family Ixus 700.
The FinePix 4700 Zoom was a fantastic camera in its day, but it's been long since superseded. The lens really does distort quite horribly at times, especially at the extremes of the zoom, and both the examples I had were soft at the left of the picture. Fuji also 'invent' pixels on these models; there's more pixels in the output than on the sensor. The big problem with a budget of £500-600 is that it will get you a 350D, but, at most, only the kit lens, which is not the greatest lens ever. It's quite slow (small maximum aperture) and is generally a basic piece of optics. If there's no hope of finding the money for extra and better lenses, it's debatable as to whether it's worth going to a DSLR. Accordingly, I think cdi-ink is on the money here - though I wouldn't dismiss the Canon S2 IS (the replacement S3 IS has just been announced and I believe will be available in a couple of months). That could be a fine choice here, and if you head over to the Small Compact Digitals forum, you'll see just what people can do with these units. Indeed, there's good units in all the Canon ranges that will teach you more about photography, and will be a huge leap up from your current camera. The excellent Ixus cameras don't have much in the way of controls, though - if you want to learn more about the technical side of photography, they're best avoided. David |
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Thanks so much for the replies!
They're really helping. I need a camera to get my feet off the ground fornow, to get me started. I can extend my budget and get lenses as the time comes around etc. I'll look at those cameras this evening and read some reviews on them. |
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How about a lighty used 350D to get you started ??
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=142076
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How do you guys feel this would benefit me?
Price looks very good and I'm really tempted... But I need something that isn't going to restrict me and hinder my "learning curve" and make life difficult etc. |
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If you're really serious about embarking on the learning curve then the 350D would be a better bet IMHO even if you have to start with the kit lens.
I've had a number of "bridge" cameras and they are really good for what they are - I've now got a Pro1 which I carry when portability is needed. I've had Fujis in the past and they are very good cameras. However you will soon find the limitations of these as there are some things that they just are simply not very good at. DSLRs are so much more versatile and you'd be hard pushed to find the camera limiting your photography for some considerable time. Good luck with your search
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