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Canon EOS 1D Mark IV, reviewed by CyberDyneSystems

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Feb 20, 2015 15:18 |  #1

The Pinnacle of the EOS 1D series.
February 2015

Since the 1Dx forced the 1D and 1Ds series together, the 1D Mark IV remains (for now?) the Pinnacle of the 1D action oriented 1.3x APS-H sensor body.

I have owned every body in the series in the order they launched with the only exception of the "minor upgrade" 1D Mk2N. ( the "N" was not a new camera, but a 1D2 with a few added features and improvements. Performance remained identical. )

Without question, the series improved as you would expect, and the 1D4 is the best of the best.
I expect to use for a very long time.

The AF system is as expected in any 1D body, top of the line for it's era. The last iteration of the amazing 45 point AF system first seen the EOS 3, it was both improved over the earlier versions, refined vs. the 1D3's problem prone launch, while at the same time familiar to use and adjust for those of us who had been using it's predecessors.

While the 1D3 was the first DSLR to incorporate the "Live view" feature that eventually made video possible, it was the 1D4 that was the first 1D with video capability. Here it is not a strong suit, no the more affordable contemporary 5D2 may have been a better choice for Video, but still to have the option in the 1D4 remains a plus.

Some Specs:

• 27.9 x 18.6 mm CMOS sensor
• 1.3x crop factor
• 16.1 million effective pixels
• 3:2 aspect ratio

With a full res image size in RAW and jpeg of 4896x3264 it is still a very good resolution today, but falls behind the current crop 22mp and 36p modern DSLRs.

It maintains the 1D3's max timing of 10fps, but increases buffer capacity to 121 frames for Large/Fine JPEG, and 28 frames for RAW.

Movie mode offers u to full HD 1920 x 1080 in H.264

The last 1D AF system sports;

• 45-point TTL
• 39 cross-type points, require F2.8 or faster lens *
• TTL-AREA-SIR with a CMOS sensor
• AF working range: -1.0 to 18 EV

Metering is handled by 63 zone metering linked to all AF points.

Native ISO modes from ISO 100 - 12800 expandable in software up to ISO 102400

Focal-plane shutter adjustable from 30 seconds - 1/8000 sec
• 0.3, 0.5 or 1.0 EV increments
• Flash X-Sync: 1/300 sec

All of this wrapped into Canon's (and arguably the entire industries) most rugged and durable body.


Summary:

In it's day, the 1D4 was likely the top performer in ISO noise handling / image quality as well. Where the 1D3 with it's first ever 14 bit AD color processor was a big step up over it's older brother, the 1D4 takes it even further. Today the image quality in dark scenes and high ISO settings is in the same ballpark as Canon's 5D3/6D (though not quite as good) and is only given the smackdown by the much larger pixels equipping 1DX. (6.9µm vs 5.7µm)

With it's combination of speed, durability, superb AF and still very capable image quality and noise handling, the 1D4 remains at the time of writing this, one of the premier action oriented professional camera available, even if used is now the only buying option. It is the last of it's kind, and will be the standard bearer for some years to come.

Used prices at the time of writing in early 2015 are now dipping down below $2K largely due to the 7D2, which is pretty amazing considering mere months ago it was still averaging up around $3K used.


Vs. 7D2
The 7D2 is stealing a lot of the old 1.3x 1D format thunder. Where the 7D was only an "affordable alternative" to even older used 1D bodies when it came out, the 7D2 is another story all together. It is a direct competitor to the original 1.3x 1D line, not an affordable alternative. Some are even comparing it to the much more costly 1Dx.

Recently i have added a 7D2 to my line up and I plan to attempt a complete side by side comparison in the near future. that the two are now priced nearly equally is impressive indeed.

As of April 2015 I am still leaning towards the more familiar 1D for many reasons, however I am also becoming more and more amazed at the abilities that have been packed into this little 7D2.

EDIT:

7D2 has actually pretty much replaced the 1D4 for me.
It's advances in features, controls, EF-S compatibility and compact size with equal or better performance vs. the 1D4 mean it is the one I grab when action is what I am shooting.


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Feb 26, 2015 14:14 |  #2

Great review. I needed some more head to head info to convince me that it would be worth selling my 1D3 and replacing it with the 1D4. But after reading about the larger buffer and better high ISO handling I'm convinced. And I'd like that larger display screen.


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Feb 26, 2015 18:26 |  #3

The LED screen on the 1D4 is enough reason to upgrade from the 1D3 in my opinion. All the other improvements just made the change sweeter.

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Feb 26, 2015 19:56 |  #4

Maxdave wrote in post #17451466external link
The LED screen on the 1D4 is enough reason to upgrade from the 1D3 in my opinion. All the other improvements just made the change sweeter.

Maxdave

This is totally true, my 1D4 just arrived today and I still have a 1D3 and man does the screen impress me already, reminds me of my 5D2


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Feb 27, 2015 06:04 |  #5

I liked the 1D3, but I tell others that it was the only Canon I ever used where the image on the LED screen looked WORSE than it did when I saw it on the computer. I couldn't ever tell if a shot was at all sharp. The 1D4 addressed that problem.

I really appreciated those big pixels on the 1D3 though ...

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Feb 27, 2015 18:14 |  #6

Jake,

I also love my 1D4. It was the first really good body (for what I shoot) that I have used. As much as I enjoyed my previous cameras, I think of the 1D4 as my first body that did not have major weaknesses. It allows me to capture wildlife & bird images that I simply could not get with any of my other bodies. Despite having been discontinued for about 3 years now, I think it may still be the best body for certain types of wildlife, bird, and sports photography in certain situations, the 1Dx, 5D3, and 7D2 notwithstanding. I could very well see myself using 1D4s as my primary bodies for the next 4 to 6 years. Yes, really!


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Feb 28, 2015 19:51 |  #7

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17452927external link
Jake,

.... I think of the 1D4 as my first body that did not have major weaknesses. ....

This really does sum it up well. Had not thought to put it quite that way, but yes, it seems to have been the first DSLR to open up all the bottlenecks, leaving you wanting nothing from another model.


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Mar 03, 2015 07:49 |  #8

Jake,
great review, thank you.
I've just added a MkIV to my 5dIII and I'm super happy with my lineup now: the MkIV feels like it will last forever.
My best Canon purchase so far.

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Mar 03, 2015 17:21 |  #9

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17441233external link
The Pinnacle of the EOS 1D series.
February 2015
'Vs. 7D2
I would consider doing a 1D4 Vs. 7D2 comparison as the 7D2 is stealing a lot of the old 1.3x 1D format thunder. However, I can't as I have yet to really get a chance to give a 7D2 a workout (or own one) but suffice it to say, I happily paid for my 1D4 and still own it. I do not own a 7D2. A lame argument for the older 1D, but the only one I've got :)

For what it's worth I know a guy who tests gear for Canon. He had the 7D2 and liked it very much, but returned it to Canon. The reason he gave me was that his 1DX and 1D4 were simply "Better".
I know a few people who own the 7D2 and they are very pleased with the improvements that it offers over previous models but none of them have ever owned 1 series cameras
Personally I haven't used the 7D2 much - but I was impressed with my limited usage. It is light, fast, has good IQ, good AF etc etc. Would I buy one? No, simply because a used 1D4 is (in my opinion) a better camera that will get me more keepers as well as being faster reacting to moving/erratic subjects - just my opinion, though I did own a 1D4 for quite a while. At current (used) prices the 1D4 looks very attractive, though if you want a new camera the 7D2 is MUCH cheaper than the 1DX!


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Apr 02, 2015 18:26 |  #10

The 1Dx ought to be "better" than the 7D2 at 4x the price.  :p I don't own a 1D4 but I do know several friends who shoot them regularly and have "borrowed" them from time to time at an event. They are certainly excellent. One of my friends dropped his while running to cover a news event, punching a hole through the body. It kept working till he was able to get it repaired properly. That's a pro camera.

I can't justify a 1Dx, but I'm delighted with my 7D2. Spectacular autofocus and noise performance within a stop of the 5D3; I can't imagine a new camera outperforming it at the price.


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Apr 03, 2015 07:00 |  #11

Grilega wrote in post #17458275external link
Jake,
great review, thank you.
I've just added a MkIV to my 5dIII and I'm super happy with my lineup now: the MkIV feels like it will last forever.
My best Canon purchase so far.

Graziano

The 5D3 and 1D4 are my chosen pairing too ... great combination.

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Apr 16, 2015 06:16 |  #12

I have just bought a 1DMkIV for just under $1900us with just over 50,000 acuations clean for 5 yrs old body.
Having read every review of this body it is a no brainer, my 1DMk3 which was one of the later serials 570377
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Apr 16, 2015 10:22 |  #13

I've edited the last section of this review "Vs 7D2"

I will be attempting a direct comparison of the two in the near future.

My gut is as of now telling me that the two each have their own strong points, and that the scales may be very well balanced, but that in and of itself is a significant statement given the differing prices at launch.


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Jul 01, 2017 11:33 |  #14

I am an enthusiast and I am looking to buy 1 body which will satisfy my love for both night photography and bird photography. Which one should I go for? 1D4 or 5D3?




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Jul 02, 2017 06:57 as a reply to TomCruise06's post |  #15

The 1D4 is now so inexpensive, I might be convinced it is worth acquiring JUST for shooting birds and other fast things ... I have them both and the 5D3 would be my choice for night time.

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