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Mar 07, 2015 00:43 |  #16

jocau wrote in post #17464133 (external link)
I'm the other way around. I'm more of a tele guy. I've not played around that much with a focal length of 35mm (full-frame terms). However the times I did, I found it very difficult to get interesting shots. With a tele lens it's often a piece of cake since you can easily isolate your subject thanks to the narrow depth of field. Much less distractions noticeable.

Different strokes for different folks =)

I prefer wider FOV for portraits specifically because they don't completely nuke the background to an abstract blur of color, allowing to give your portraits context and to tell a story with a shot. Also Wide focal lengths + fast apertures give a very interesting three dimensional subject isolation that you can't achieve when the background elements are taken completely out of the frame.

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Mar 13, 2015 09:41 |  #17

SLRGearexternal link has posted their review of the Sony Distagon T* FE 35mm F/1.4 ZA.


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Mar 14, 2015 16:27 as a reply to jocau's post |  #18

Disappointing to hear about the corner sharpness? Seems like it sharpens up by f/2.


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Mar 14, 2015 17:01 as a reply to idkdc's post |  #19

Yes, optically it definitely isn't as superb as e.g. the Sony FE 55mm F/1.8. Then again, I have the impression that wide angle lenses are always worse than lenses that are more telephoto (regarding sharpness in the corners).


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Mar 18, 2015 08:22 |  #20

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Looks like this will ship in a few days in Asia. My amazon order has updated to show a release date of 03/31/15.


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Mar 18, 2015 08:27 |  #21

mystik610 wrote in post #17480281external link
http://www.sonyalpharu​mors.com ...ip-in-a-few-days-already/external link

Looks like this will ship in a few days in Asia. My amazon order has updated to show a release date of 03/31/15.

Looking forward to see the reviews and imagery as this thing gets released. I pulled the plug on all my FE lens pre-orders to re-evaluate my plans, so I won't be getting one initially.


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Mar 26, 2015 10:01 |  #22

Got an update from Amazon that mine should be coming April 2nd.


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Mar 26, 2015 13:04 |  #23

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Got an update from Amazon that mine should be coming April 2nd.

Interesting. I haven't received a notification so I'm probably further down the list from you. When did you pre-order?


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Mar 26, 2015 13:43 |  #24

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Interesting. I haven't received a notification so I'm probably further down the list from you. When did you pre-order?

Pretty much right away. Within an hour or two.


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Mar 26, 2015 13:48 |  #25

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Pretty much right away. Within an hour or two.

Ah i see. I pre-ordered a 2-3 days later.


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Mar 27, 2015 03:41 |  #26

First of all, like I said before I'm not a 35mm focal length guy. But I do like to see what new lenses are able to deliver optically. In that context, I think the problem of the Sony/Zeiss Distagon T* FE 35mm F/1.4 ZA is called the Sony/Zeiss Sonnar T* FE 55mm F/1.8 ZA. The latter has raised the bar so high optically, that every lens that is more expensive than it gets compared to it. When I look at the Sony/Zeiss Distagon T* FE 35mm F/1.4 ZA and compare it to the Sony/Zeiss Sonnar T* FE 55mm F/1.8 ZA, I see a few things:

  • It's another focal length (duh)
  • It has a max aperture that is two-thirds of a stop faster
  • It probably has faster AF when paired with the right body
  • It's optically nowhere near as impressive as the Sony/Zeiss Sonnar T* FE 55mm F/1.8 ZA while being almost twice as expensive (at least in my country where it's 899 EUR vs 1.699 EUR)
Of course my opinion is based on early reviews of the Sony/Zeiss Distagon T* FE 35mm F/1.4 ZA. I can't see myself spending more than 1.250 EUR on a lens, but if I decide to cross that border one day, it's because it's a bloody awesome lens. And with a bloody awesome lens, I mean something like the Canon EF 70-200mm F/2.8L IS II ISM or the Zeiss Apo Sonnar T* 2/135.

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Mar 27, 2015 07:01 |  #27

It's an expensive lens no doubt. The 55 1.8 looks to be the sharper lens so far, but I've never really seen the point in comparing the optical performance between two lenses of different focal lengths, as its never an apples to apples comparison. There are very distinct differences between a 55mm FOV and 35mm FOV, and if creatively you need a 35mm FOV, then it doesn't really matter how much better a 55mm lens is.

The bigger test for me is how the Sony 35 stacks up against the Sigma 35 1.4 ART. Given the optical quality of the Sigma 35 and the price it sells for, it'll take a lot, IMO, to best the Sigma from a price/performance standpoint. We'll see if the Sony's optical quality and AF can justify costing 2.5x more!


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Mar 27, 2015 08:28 |  #28

I see what you mean, but sometimes people are just looking for a new lens without having a specific focal length in mind. And the FOV difference between a 35mm lens and a 55mm lens is not night and day like it is between e.g. a 14mm lens and a 300mm lens. For those kind of people optical performance could be important, just as price. The price difference between both lenses is just too big.

And then there's the Sigma 35mm F/1.4 ART like you said. The Sony/Zeiss Distagon T* FE 35mm F/1.4 ZA still has at least one thing the Sigma 35mm F/1.4 ART doesn't have and that's the Zeiss look. But then again, you can also get that Zeiss look with the much cheaper Sony/Zeiss Sonnar T* FE 35mm F/2.8 ZA.

Also, it's not really about comparing different focal lengths. With the Sony/Zeiss Sonnar T* FE 55mm F/1.8 ZA, Sony has set a new reference level regarding optical performance of a lens at a certain price point (899 EUR or whatever the price is in your country). If a new lens is more expensive than that and can't reach that reference level, one starts thinking which other benefits the new lens has which compensate for the lesser optical performance and the higher price tag. And that's where things don't look too good.

Is it more practical? Unless you really need a 35mm lens, no, since it's also a prime lens and not a zoom lens (zoom lenses are much more convenient).
Is it much faster? No, only two-thirds of a stop.
Does it have a much higher build quality? No.
Is it much smaller and lighter? No, the opposite is true.


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Mar 27, 2015 10:38 |  #29

For the most part I think Sony is charging a premium for their FE lenses. The FE 35mm f/2.8 is a nice lens, but the Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM is a stop faster, has stabilization, is probably at least as sharp, has a better bokeh, and is far less expensive. So, both FE 35mm lenses are going to seem overpriced compared to some Canon-mount models.

Sharpness isn't everything though. I had the Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35mm ZE (Canon-mount) and it is not sharper than the Sigma, but it does have superior bokeh and colors are more beautiful (imo). The Sigma is quite impressive, but I preferred the Zeiss. I learned sharpness is not the be all end all for lens quality. If this new FE 35mm f/1.4 is as good or better, then it should be a winner...a really expensive winner. ;)

You make some really good points jocau; no doubt the FE 55mm is the best value/performance prime in the little FE prime lineup. Its main flaw is the bokeh can be less than great at times (the FE 35mm f/2.8 is even worse).


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Mar 27, 2015 12:42 |  #30

Before I started researching Sony cameras, the Canon EF 35mm F/2 IS USM was also a lens I respected a lot. It's small, fast, has IS and appears to be pretty sharp. But remember that it had a ridiculous price tag during the first year or so after its launch (I believe it was about 850 USD/EUR during the first year). The launch price of the Sony/Zeiss Sonnar T* FE 35mm F/2.8 ZA was about 800 USD/EUR I believe. And while not necessarily true, the Sony/Zeiss Sonnar T* FE 35mm F/2.8 ZA at least appears to have a higher build quality than the Canon EF 35mm F/2 IS USM thanks to its metal build.

I also think that part of the reason why Sony FE lenses are so expensive is because Sony just sells less lenses than Canon. And selling less lenses means higher prices. On the other hand Zeiss is a premium brand and Zeiss lenses have always been really expensive.


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