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Mar 27, 2015 13:17 |  #31

jocau wrote in post #17493892 (external link)
I see what you mean, but sometimes people are just looking for a new lens without having a specific focal length in mind. And the FOV difference between a 35mm lens and a 55mm lens is not night and day like it is between e.g. a 14mm lens and a 300mm lens. For those kind of people optical performance could be important, just as price. The price difference between both lenses is just too big.

Maybe not night not night and day for a lot of applications, but for environmental portraits, there is a pretty dramatic difference between 50mm and 35mm. If you are trying to tell a story with the relationship of the subject and background elements, the wide FOV of the 35mm FOV is more impactful, as it will exaggerate the background, and pull more background elements into the frame.

Admittedly a specialized need, and the cost probably doesn’t make sense for most. But I have a particular love for the 35mm focal length (50mm is comparatively boring to me), and provided it delivers optically, I can see the Sony 35 1.4 being my primary lens.

Quick FOV comparison I did a while back.

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Mar 27, 2015 17:50 |  #32

Got my shipping notification today. Will receive it April 1st!


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Mar 28, 2015 05:42 |  #33

mystik610 wrote in post #17494660external link
Got my shipping notification today. Will receive it April 1st!

I hope it's not a joke. :-P


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Mar 28, 2015 07:09 |  #34

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I hope it's not a joke. :-P

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Mar 28, 2015 11:25 |  #35

I asked (on FM Forum) a Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35mm owner to compare it to his new FE 35mm f/1.4 ZA. Here are his thoughts so far:

As you might know I also owned the Zeiss 35/1.4 ZE in the past. I liked it a lot. The bokeh of the ZE/ZF in the close up ranges is smoother than that of the FE, but I think that has a lot to do with the FE being a better corrected lens. At mid distance the FE seems to be smoother. Both show some field curvature. When shooting at infinity stopped down to F5.6 with both, the ZE/ZF shows softer edges while the FE has more of a mid zone dip.
The FE is much sharper wide open. The FE seems to have a bit more "character" than the ZE/ZF. The FE has less CA, but does show some LoCa.
I'll get back to this when I've shot it more (and maybe share some examples). At the moment it's raining most of the time.

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you guys think the 35mm 1.4 is sharper then the zeiss 55mm 1.8 fe mount?


No, it's hard to beat the 55 in sharpness.

To me, as a former Zeiss Distagon T* 1.4/35mm ZE owner, I find this very encouraging. This could turn out to be the best overall 35mm on the market (except for Leica, probably). It doesn't need to be sharper than the 55mm or even the Sigma 35mm. It just needs to have good sharpness combined with a beautifully smooth bokeh. And some 3D pop could make it truly special.


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Mar 28, 2015 16:02 |  #36

Well, 3D pop is something it surely delivers. Take a look at this imageexternal link I posted on page 1 of this thread.


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Mar 28, 2015 16:11 |  #37

jocau wrote in post #17495756external link
Well, 3D pop is something it surely delivers. Take a look at this imageexternal link I posted on page 1 of this thread.

And lots of 3D pop in these samples as well: http://sonymirrorlessp​ro.com ...-distagon-t-fe-35mm-f1-4/external link


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Mar 28, 2015 18:08 |  #38

Perhaps not as sharp as the Sigma, but the FE 35 seems to a very smooth and pleasing rendering. Bokeh is very smooth, despite complex backgrounds....really makes the subject pop.

The sigma though very sharp, has a very harsh and contrasty rendering to it, and the bokeh is very nervous when you've got a busy background. It's always bugged me a bit, and when I stop down, I usually reach for my Canon 24-70II instead.

The Sony looks promising!


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Mar 28, 2015 19:11 |  #39

To be honest, while the bokeh isn't bad (especially for a 35mm lens), I still don't find it great. It's still too busy. But to solve that problem, you need a (fast) telephoto lens.


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Mar 29, 2015 08:19 |  #40

Well if you're shooting with a 35mm lens, your goal isn't usually to completely nuke the background. You reach for a fast 35 specifically because you want the background elements in the frame, as this gives your photograph context (something you can't achieve when you're subject is framed against an indiscernible blur of color). Also, you can't achieve that 3 dimensional 'pop' when you nuke the background, because there is nothing to 'pop' from.

A good wide prime is able to isolate your subject by having sharp in focus areas, and smooth out of focus areas, despite having complex elements in the background. That's what creates the 3 dimensional subject isolation you're seeing in the sample photo of the cat.

This is somewhat gimmicky, but when you look at this sample of the fe 35 1.4, the guys hand seems to pop right out of the photo:

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Mar 30, 2015 01:10 as a reply to mystik610's post |  #41

Hehe some motion blur on that sample image, but yeah, I agree, it's more of a "journalistic" prime lens that requires more thought put into the background. I think it makes it much more work to get a great shot like a wide angle requires more thought into foreground and background composition, while a longer lens with better subject isolation is easier to concentrate more on the foreground subject. So a 35 is great for environmental portraits or environmental close-ups whereas a 50mm, 85 and 135 are better for portraits and detail shots that decontextualize or isolate a subject in order of their focal lengths (oversimplifying it a little bit by taking just focal length into account, but it's the practical gist of it).


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Mar 31, 2015 13:21 |  #42

Just took delivery of this thing. Its a massive piece of glass! Feels bigger and heavier than the Sigma 35 ART.


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Mar 31, 2015 13:32 as a reply to mystik610's post |  #43

That sounds pretty massive.

They got it to you a day early? Amazon says I should have mine tomorrow - looking forward to it. :)


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Mar 31, 2015 13:51 |  #44

David Arbogast wrote in post #17499461external link
That sounds pretty massive.

They got it to you a day early? Amazon says I should have mine tomorrow - looking forward to it. :)

It's massive for a 35mm lens even by DSLR standards hah. I take it as a testament to the design and optical quality.

It was initially supposed to arrive tomorrow, but it ended up shipping y'day.

Looking forward to what you shoot with it David!


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Mar 31, 2015 14:31 |  #45

Got an email from B & H this morning - mine’s on its way. Should be here on Friday. :-)


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