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Jul 29, 2015 11:06 |  #31

Some raw files from a new owner. Get 'em before dropbox shuts it down due to bandwidth issues.. :)

https://www.dropbox.co​m ...SqA6krq5MCODn6UxPcu​a?dl=0 (external link)

Edit - Wow, I'm impressed.. though I'm questioning if ISO 25,600 is usable or not. I don't think it will be. The usability limit might be 12,800 or whatever the ISO stop below 25,600 is. Still, a marked improvement over the 5D3 and even 6D days.


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Jul 29, 2015 11:38 |  #32

mystik610 wrote in post #17648658 (external link)
Sounds a lot like the a7II shutter. Gotta love that silent EFC

From my understanding, the a7rII shutter sound in that video is just the normal shutter, now improved. The silent shutter is supposed to be truly silent with no noise at all. I've heard that both photographers and subjects alike (for portraits), prefer at least a quiet shutter rather than silent though.


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Jul 29, 2015 11:57 |  #33

navydoc wrote in post #17648795 (external link)
From my understanding, the a7rII shutter sound in that video is just the normal shutter, now improved. The silent shutter is supposed to be truly silent with no noise at all. I've heard that both photographers and subjects alike (for portraits), prefer at least a quiet shutter rather than silent though.

I assume it's the same as on the a7s.. it's completely silent. Works great, unless you or your subject is moving fast, or you're in weird lighting that changes on you during the shot.. then you can get banding in your images.


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Jul 29, 2015 12:05 |  #34

I wonder how long it will take for Adobe to release an updated version of ACR that includes support for the Sony a7rM2 raw files?


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Jul 29, 2015 12:29 |  #35

navydoc wrote in post #17648843 (external link)
I wonder how long it will take for Adobe to release an updated version of ACR that includes support for the Sony a7rM2 raw files?

They won't open in acr yet?
Support for the a7R II probably depends on when they are scheduling their next act/LR update. We won't have too long a wait.


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Jul 29, 2015 12:35 |  #36

David Arbogast wrote in post #17648871 (external link)
They won't open in acr yet?
Support for the a7R II probably depends on when they are scheduling their next act/LR update. We won't have too long a wait.

Well, I can open a7rM2 raw files using C1, Sony Raw Converter and Photoninja now but I'm hoping to reduce the intermediate tif files when I want/need to import the files to PS for further editing although I can use Photoninja as a raw editor in PS to open 1st in PN and then straight to PS with no intermediate files, just like we can when we open a raw file using ACR.


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Jul 29, 2015 14:41 |  #37

downloaded some of the posted files

Lightroom is now able to open them

ISO 100, F5.6, 1/60th - 2.75 stops under exposed as it appears in LR

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/295/19934270280_7284f3dfee_c.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/wnwm​4b] (external link)a7rii_test (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

corrected (+2.75 stops) with 1:1 crop

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/401/20114277112_ab8b33573a_c.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/wDqV​Pf] (external link)a7rii_test-2 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

corrected with 3:1 crop

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/393/20127796921_7ed8a2b6a6_z.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/wECd​Mp] (external link)a7rii_test-3 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr


ISO 25,600

IMAGE: https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3666/20128030471_dce941db53_c.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/wEDq​d8] (external link)a7rii_test-9 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

ISO 25,600 crop 1:1 crop

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/444/20095992736_16bf6555d4_c.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/wBPd​vo] (external link)a7rii_test-5 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

ISO 25,600 crop 3:1 crop

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/262/19499646964_74c1c47ef0_z.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/vH7M​FJ] (external link)a7rii_test-6 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

ISO 25,600 crop 3:1 crop with +40 shadows

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/375/20114259322_2c6602f5a1_z.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/wDqQ​ww] (external link)a7rii_test-7 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

ISO 25,600 crop 3:1 crop with +40 shadows and small amount of Noise Reduction

IMAGE: https://farm1.staticflickr.com/444/19935599179_18657b1c8f_z.jpg
[IMAGE'S LINK: https://flic.kr/p/wnDa​6e] (external link)a7rii_test-8 (external link) by Paul O'Neil (external link), on Flickr

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Jul 29, 2015 14:49 |  #38

that 25600 might be ok for events, i'de like to see it in use. biggest issue with the older model sony is the color rendition deteriorates, this doesnt seem to have that issue, however, the scene has a lot of light, so I'll hold off judgement.


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Jul 29, 2015 15:37 |  #39

Charlie wrote in post #17649001 (external link)
that 25600 might be ok for events, i'de like to see it in use. biggest issue with the older model sony is the color rendition deteriorates, this doesnt seem to have that issue, however, the scene has a lot of light, so I'll hold off judgement.


if you look at the 1:1 crop at iso 100 and iso 25,600 there is an enormous difference in color rendition

from an overall picture perspective, the 25,600 iso image is more than ok for a 25,600 ISO picture - especially if used online etc

my guess is that 6400 - 8000 is going to be the max if you really care about colour - i was looking very closely at the iso5000 picture and that is pretty good and definitely useable - really depends on your standards

I have a pretty hard rule for wedding pictures on the 5D3 - 3200 ISO and below for 95%+ of the photos - 1600ISO if possible

Looking the 5000 ISO photo in pretty good detail, I would say that the A7RII is 1.5stops cleaner than a 5D3 (that is a guess but I think I'm pretty close)


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Jul 29, 2015 17:14 as a reply to wallstreetoneil's post |  #40

I'm ok with even 12800 from the 6D, however do tend to avoid 25600 when possible. It's pretty rare for me to hit that ISO limit as is, so it would be nice to have sorta deal.

most of my shooting does not exceed 6400 though, even low light church stuff is around 3200-6400 at most. I'de love for a boost in that area, not only noise, but color fidelity. I'm ok with the A7's performance in that regard, but I'de love better.


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Jul 29, 2015 17:16 |  #41

Speaking of low-light color and the a7R II - although I too want great high-ISO performance, I also want great color rendition at ISO 100 during long exposures. Seems like the a7R has some issues with hot-pixels (or whatever it's called).


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Jul 29, 2015 17:24 as a reply to David Arbogast's post |  #42

when I think hot pixels, I'm thinking red dots that show up? I recall my 5Dc having a lot of hot pixels in bulb mode, is that what you're referring to?


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Jul 29, 2015 17:37 |  #43

Charlie wrote in post #17649193 (external link)
when I think hot pixels, I'm thinking red dots that show up? I recall my 5Dc having a lot of hot pixels in bulb mode, is that what you're referring to?

Well, shoot, I don't really know. :oops: I was actually just parroting something Lucas (EverydayGetaway) said here: http://photography-on-the.net ...showthread.php?p=17​492667 Sometimes I'll read something like that and it gets imprinted in my mind: "a7R = not-as-good for LE."


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Jul 29, 2015 18:00 |  #44

David Arbogast wrote in post #17648871 (external link)
They won't open in acr yet?
Support for the a7R II probably depends on when they are scheduling their next act/LR update. We won't have too long a wait.

I'm quoting you a second time David as it looks like as of a few hours ago, both LR and PS 2015 now have an update for camera raw to 9.1.1 that does support the new Sony a7rM2. I had to restart my computer before the Creative Cloud App recognized there was an update for those two programs.


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Jul 29, 2015 20:35 |  #45

David Arbogast wrote in post #17649202 (external link)
Well, shoot, I don't really know. :oops: I was actually just parroting something Lucas (EverydayGetaway) said here: http://photography-on-the.net ...showthread.php?p=17​492667 Sometimes I'll read something like that and it gets imprinted in my mind: "a7R = not-as-good for LE."

According to the Sony marketing material, moving the wiring behind the sensor reduces the amount of heat that hits the photo diodes. This should reduce thermal noise seen with long exposures. I dont believe anyone had tested this though.


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