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Aug 23, 2015 17:23 |  #1

I'm traveling to Japan for a week next month and I'm looking to pick up a very light, very small portable tripod for some city scapes. I have it narrowed down to a few options and one of them is the Sirui T-025X: http://www.bhphotovide​o.com ..._carbon_fiber_tripo​d.html (external link)

This one is very small... light weight and the price is not bad. I'd like to keep my option to around 250 or less. It doesn't have to be carbon fiber but the lighter the better but obviously needs to be strong enough for my gear.

I plan on using a 5D3 and a 17-40 (or my 15-30) and will also have with me a 50 1.8 STM which is light and my 24mm 1.4 Art and also the 12mm fisheye prime.

I've weighed a few of the combos. The heaviest being the 5D3 and 15-30 and it's 4lb 7.4oz while the 5D3 and 50A is 4lb even and the other combos get lighter. The 5D3 and 12mm fisheye is a lens I want to use alot of and it's only 3lb 7oz while the lightest option is the 5D3/50mm stm lens and it's 3lb 3.3oz

So would the Sirui T-025X be OK enough to handle these options for the purpose of travel and keeping things small and light. The thing is rated for 13lb and I always try to stick to the 1/2 rating of capability.

Just looking for some insight. Thoughts and opinions?


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Aug 23, 2015 18:15 |  #2

I have a few Sirui products (though not this tripod) and have been quite impressed by them - especially at the price!
One thing you should consider is that Sirui carbon tubing is not as rigid as the Gitzo equivalents. It is good/very good but not quite as good.
I have the Gitzo GT1550T (which this is basically a copy of) and mine is fine for lenses up to about 100mm or so so long as it is not too windy. Given the quality of my Sirui products I would expect that this tripod would be fine for lenses up to 50/70mm.

Don't forget a good head! The Sirui K series are very nice (I have the K40x too big/heavy for your needs) try the K10x and K20x. Alternatively the Triopo RS heads will hold ridiculous loads securely plus they are very light, very cheap and have the best lockup of any ball head that I have yet tried. I have the RS3 (biggest of the RS range) on my Gitzo 1550T, yes the head is that small and light, but it will EASILY (and I mean really easily) hold my Canon 800mm F5.6. The RS1 or RS2 would be the ones to look at. Remember that you will need to fit a QR plate.

Happy hunting and I hope you have a good trip, just for fun I have attached a couple of images of my little Triopo RS3 with a 600 F4 on top. Note how far out of balance it is, it should be on the rear red marker.

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Aug 23, 2015 18:24 |  #3

johnf3f wrote in post #17680233 (external link)
I have a few Sirui products (though not this tripod) and have been quite impressed by them - especially at the price!
One thing you should consider is that Sirui carbon tubing is not as rigid as the Gitzo equivalents. It is good/very good but not quite as good.
I have the Gitzo GT1550T (which this is basically a copy of) and mine is fine for lenses up to about 100mm or so so long as it is not too windy. Given the quality of my Sirui products I would expect that this tripod would be fine for lenses up to 50/70mm.

Don't forget a good head! The Sirui K series are very nice (I have the K40x too big/heavy for your needs) try the K10x and K20x. Alternatively the Triopo RS heads will hold ridiculous loads securely plus they are very light, very cheap and have the best lockup of any ball head that I have yet tried. I have the RS3 (biggest of the RS range) on my Gitzo 1550T, yes the head is that small and light, but it will EASILY (and I mean really easily) hold my Canon 800mm F5.6. The RS1 or RS2 would be the ones to look at. Remember that you will need to fit a QR plate.

Happy hunting and I hope you have a good trip, just for fun I have attached a couple of images of my little Triopo RS3 with a 600 F4 on top. Note how far out of balance it is, it should be on the rear red marker.

Thanks for the input. Something to consider. I won't use a "light" travel tripod very often so I didn't want to invest in a gitzo. I have a vanguard tripod now and use a Sirui K40x so I definately know what your talking about (too big lol) I'm going to move this head to a large tripod like a gitzo for when I video my kids stuff. I don't need a video head I just need rock solid and a little pan is all. Ball head is fine for me for that.

Ya I'm thinking maybe a K10x and a set of decent lightweight legs. I think I can get this to around 2.5lbs and folding under 16" would be key.


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Aug 23, 2015 18:33 |  #4

If you're looking for quality that will not break the bank then also check out Induro and Mephoto, besides Sirui.

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Aug 23, 2015 18:45 |  #5

Talley wrote in post #17680242 (external link)
Thanks for the input. Something to consider. I won't use a "light" travel tripod very often so I didn't want to invest in a gitzo.

Are you sure you don't want to invest in a Gitzo? My (used, but almost like new) Gitzo 1550T was a little less than B&H are selling the Sirui in the US and I bought my Gitzo in Ripoff Britain!
I forgot to mention the Feisol Tournament tripods. They are a little longer folded, very light, good for my 300 F2.8 and often very cheap second hand - as 2 of my friends have found out! They paid, in your money, $135 (3 leg section) and $150 (4 leg section), again both in Ripoff Britain.
If you have time the used market is the place to go, if not then I think you would probably be happy with the Sirui - with the proviso that I haven't tried that specific model.
The K10x looks good, as (like me) you have the K40x you know how good the construction is, maybe the K20x might be better but it is bigger and heavier = swings and roundabouts!


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Aug 23, 2015 19:38 as a reply to johnf3f's post |  #6

Thanks for the input. My trip is in 2 weeks 6 days. I'll probably buy new. I do want quality but I don't use a tripod often. I was thinking of picking up a light travel something for kicks and then I have my vanguard that I will fit a K10x on and then my K40x and a gitzo for my big work. Again... in 4 years... I've used a tripod for photography = zero. Just used it for video BUT... I don't do cityscapes at night either.... which is what I plan on doing for Japan since my out and about will be in the evening only so I want to be prepared...

I want it light... it doesn't have to be the strongest but strong enough for some 2-10s exposures. I'll want to shoot at F8-11 and ISO 100 so whatever it takes on the shutter.

$250 is my budget... I don't want to have thousands wrapped up in a few tripods since tripod = less than 5% of my shooting... although it could change in the future but if it does then I'll just spend then.


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Aug 23, 2015 20:40 |  #7

Mefoto. Just do it.


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Aug 24, 2015 16:24 as a reply to Talley's post |  #8

You don't really have the time to go trawling for a good used tripod - so it's off to the camera shop to try some out!
I am a great advocate of trying before you buy as we all have different ideas on what makes a good tripod for any particular use.


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Aug 29, 2015 11:21 |  #9

I think the T-025X might be just a little bit too small for your 5D3
to me, its aimed more at the mirrorless segment - I have one, and love it for use with my Leica M240 or Fuji X100

it will hold you 5D3 quite happily (mine has held my 1DX and 70-200, but with fast shutter speeds, as a remote camera during the day)
and certainly support the weight, but when fully extended, vibration will be a problem if you are doing longer exposures (use mirror lockup, and either self timer or a cable release to help reduce mirror vibration if possible)


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Sep 04, 2015 10:41 |  #10

I ended up ordering a Sirui T-1205x tripod along with a K10x head. Total cost was $390. Legs are rated 22lbs and head is almost double.

We'll see how well it does. Total package should fold to 14" and weigh exactly at 2.5lbs with the head. A touch heavier than the T-025x but should be alot sturdier for a "travel" tripod.

Will keep you all informed how I like it. It arrives Tuesday just in time for me to fly out the following Saturday.


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Sep 04, 2015 11:33 as a reply to Talley's post |  #11

the 1205 is good, but I would have got the 1204 for more stability and quicker setup. Both are international friendly tripods and good pick. I would have weighed in earlier if I caught this thread, but I do use a similar and IMO better tripod  :p the feisol tournament 3442.

the sirui is seriously a good tripod though, I've used the 1204, and I liked it a lot, just a tad behind the feisol, and really didnt want a center column. Now that you're on the arca swiss bandwagon, you need an introduction to the L bracket. No arca shooter is complete till they get the L bracket:


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Charlie wrote in post #17694889 (external link)
the 1205 is good, but I would have got the 1204 for more stability and quicker setup. Both are international friendly tripods and good pick. I would have weighed in earlier if I caught this thread, but I do use a similar and IMO better tripod  :p the feisol tournament 3442.

the sirui is seriously a good tripod though, I've used the 1204, and I liked it a lot, just a tad behind the feisol, and really didnt want a center column. Now that you're on the arca swiss bandwagon, you need an introduction to the L bracket. No arca shooter is complete till they get the L bracket:


Ya the 1204 is nice, we'll see. I got the 1205 only because it was amazon prime and I leave out soon and wanted a lighter tripod. I for some reason could not find the 1204x in stock and/or able to get quick enough.

Also... I took this photo last night w/ my phone. I already own a RSS L bracket.

EDIT: I looked up the Feisol... while it may be better it's longer by several inches and heavier and does not have center column. I bought the Sirui just for travel. I'll be buying something larger to match to my K40x ball head I got last year. So I'll have two tripods... light travel and big monster. my vanguard will get donated to a local school.

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Talley wrote in post #17694975 (external link)
Ya the 1204 is nice, we'll see. I got the 1205 only because it was amazon prime and I leave out soon and wanted a lighter tripod. I for some reason could not find the 1204x in stock and/or able to get quick enough.

Also... I took this photo last night w/ my phone. I already own a RSS L bracket.

EDIT: I looked up the Feisol... while it may be better it's longer by several inches and heavier and does not have center column. I bought the Sirui just for travel. I'll be buying something larger to match to my K40x ball head I got last year. So I'll have two tripods... light travel and big monster. my vanguard will get donated to a local school.
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I was mistaken about the 1204, I tried the 2204, and that was a great tripod.

Great thing about the feisol is that it's DEFINITELY travel friendly, taking it to the land down under this year. I figured out anything 20" and below will fit into my travel luggage, thus travel friendly  :p

it weighs in at 3.5 lbs WITH head, so it's not terribly heavy.

I am like cameras for tripods, I dont like shooting small and weak tripods.... ever (just like I refuse to shoot crop cameras  :p). The feisol is considered a bargain to what it compares to, which IMO, is the RRS TVC 24, gitzo simply does not offer a competing product. Closest thing coming from gitzo is the 254x series, which is comes in at 22", a tad too long for travel. The 5 series 6 section would work, but that's 8lbs.... So I concluded that there were only a few tripods that I considered for travel, and that would double as regular tripod. Sirui had the 2204 (28mm leg diameter) and 3205 (foreign), ugh, center column. RRS TVC24...... well it's 850 for legs only, out of price range :twisted:. Gitzo no offer. Induro CT-214, same issue as sirui, ugh center column. Last but not least, the Feisol Tournament CT-3442 rapid (28mm leg diameter)......

I do have a smaller tripod similar to the size of the 1205, but it had problems shooting with the tamron 70-300, gave me many shaky shots :rolleyes:, in contrast, have sharp long exposures with 400mm using the feisol....

One tripod to rule them all, I do keep my spare in the car, because I get mad if I look at it in the house :-P I also have another smaller worthless tripod, which I disassembled and use the legs as walking sticks for the kids.


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Sep 08, 2015 21:40 |  #14

Well I got my Sirui T-1205x legs w/ K-10x head. First of all... I have no clue why I bought a K40x for my other tripod... that thing is massively overkill BUT will go great on a big set of legs in the near future.

Now... as far as the tripod legs... awesome simply awesome. JUST what I was wanting in a small lightweight package. The head was a tad beefier than I should of gotten but I wante the exact same head as my 40x but smaller so this works well. I cannot believe how stiff this tripod is. OBVIOUSLY I'm comparing it to a Vanguard Alta+ 253CB and this Sirui is three times stronger at least.

The tripod holds my 5D3 w/ L plate and any prime and my 15-30 or my 24-70 great. Mirror lockup and 2 second timer and it nails 30 second exposures flawlessly. For those who say it's too shaky well gosh I dunno what to say. You must be looking for a tank w/ the tank weight.

I will also confirm that the T-1205x w/ K-10x head weighs 2lbs 11oz which is a tad heavier than I was wanting BUT I couldn't imagine going any lighter and still handling the load of a 5D3 w/ the 2.5lb 15-30 Tamron brick either.

I'm happy. W/ the head it folds to 14.25"

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Sep 08, 2015 21:53 |  #15

Nice.
I've got a similar set up that sports the C10 SIRUI head, which was indeed a little small for the job. It did manage though. It was on a set of flyweight induro legs. It came with me to the top of Machu picchu
K10 would indeed have been a better choice.


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