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Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM

 
cali
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Mar 04, 2006 17:10 |  #1

I am curious to know what kind of results it produces. I have noticed that it lacks sharpness and does not perform under low light. If you do have some good shots with it then I know it is not the lens but because of my failure to set it up correctly. Please post some sample pics that you have taken with the 17-85.


20D, 17-85 kit lens, 70-200 F4, 50 1.4, Amvona AT CF 994 Tripod, Manrotto Monopod that I have never used and a 580EX Flash

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Mar 04, 2006 17:23 |  #2
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I think it is a fine lens. Here are three examples of photographs I have taken with the Canon 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM:

IMAGE: http://static.flickr.com/41/97017183_19685f6842.jpg

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Full-size versions of these photographs and other photographs taken with my Canon 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM can be seen here:

http://www.flickr.com ...s/tags/efs1785mmf45​6isusm (external link)

http://www.flickr.com/​photos/latitudes/external link

Canon 5Dexternal link & 20Dexternal link

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5external link
Canon EF 15mm f/2.8external link, 16-35mm f/2.8Lexternal link, 24-105mm f/4Lexternal link, 35mm f/1.4Lexternal link, 50mm f/1.8 IIexternal link, 85mm f/1.8external link, 100mm f/2.8external link
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DCexternal link, 120-300mm f/2.8 APO EX DGexternal link
Other Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35mm f/2.8external link, Asahi Pentax Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4external link, Jupiter9 85mm f/2external link

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cali
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Mar 04, 2006 17:30 |  #3

Todd, I didn't know you lingered around here. I don't know if you remember me but I was the guy who asked you to show your work on flickr with the 17-85. I like your results. I cannot seem to get the sharpness and punch to my pictures that you do. My username on flickr is dmarkj22 so if you get a chance then look up my pictures and let me know what you think. What do you have your parameters set to? I remember that you said that all you used was Elements for PP. What do you do to your pics in PP?


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JohnnyBlood
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Mar 04, 2006 17:40 as a reply to cali's post |  #4
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Virtually every photograph I capture is done so using the RAW mode. I also set the camera to Parameter 1. However, I also use Photoshop Elements 4.0 for post-processing, as well as the Noise Ninja plug-in. By learning how to properly white balance photographs when taking them, adjust the color, saturation and contrast using levels in Photoshop Elements 4.0, and occaisionally using layers to enhance an image, I have learned how to make many of my 20D images pop. Alas, there is still much to learn.


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Canon 5Dexternal link & 20Dexternal link

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5external link
Canon EF 15mm f/2.8external link, 16-35mm f/2.8Lexternal link, 24-105mm f/4Lexternal link, 35mm f/1.4Lexternal link, 50mm f/1.8 IIexternal link, 85mm f/1.8external link, 100mm f/2.8external link
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DCexternal link, 120-300mm f/2.8 APO EX DGexternal link
Other Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35mm f/2.8external link, Asahi Pentax Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4external link, Jupiter9 85mm f/2external link

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ed ­ rader
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Mar 04, 2006 23:47 as a reply to post 1252203 |  #5

Johnnyblood -- you have a good eye. i always enjoy your stuph :cool: .

ed rader


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Mar 05, 2006 05:38 as a reply to ed rader's post |  #6
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Thanks, Rader, I appreciate that very much. I'm still learning about the wonderful world of light and color and I have a long way to go.


http://www.flickr.com/​photos/latitudes/external link

Canon 5Dexternal link & 20Dexternal link

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5external link
Canon EF 15mm f/2.8external link, 16-35mm f/2.8Lexternal link, 24-105mm f/4Lexternal link, 35mm f/1.4Lexternal link, 50mm f/1.8 IIexternal link, 85mm f/1.8external link, 100mm f/2.8external link
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DCexternal link, 120-300mm f/2.8 APO EX DGexternal link
Other Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35mm f/2.8external link, Asahi Pentax Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4external link, Jupiter9 85mm f/2external link

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Mar 05, 2006 11:00 as a reply to JohnnyBlood's post |  #7

Thanks JohnnyBlood, you convinced me to always carry the 17-85IS for my walk-arounds, even if I'm fascinated by the primes.


G6; 30D, 40D, 28F1.8, 50F1.4, 60F2.8M, 85F1.8, 10-22, 17-85IS, 70-300IS
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/ilcantiere/external link

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Mar 05, 2006 17:51 as a reply to blacksmurf's post |  #8

Need some more examples for the lens archive. Come on folks, post those pics.


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Mar 05, 2006 20:55 |  #9
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cali wrote:
I am curious to know what kind of results it produces. I have noticed that it lacks sharpness and does not perform under low light. If you do have some good shots with it then I know it is not the lens but because of my failure to set it up correctly. Please post some sample pics that you have taken with the 17-85.

Here is one I took with that lens in Death Valley.

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Actually...if you go here:

http://www.andrewstiff​.com/gallery/deva (external link)

Most of those were with the 17-85. Most are not thoroughly post-processed (the above was..just not the highest quality JPG). Some were taken with a 50mm f/1.4 but I don't remember which exactly. Anyway there are some good pictures, some not so good, but the quality of the lens is good. I sold mine in order to go with L glass and I decided that I'm not going to get EF-S mounts in case I move to a full frame camera here...which I want to do. Although, if I did and kept my 20D as backup, the 17-85mm would make a good permanent fixture to it so I may pick one up again if that happens.

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20D w/ Grip | 10D
10-22mm|17-40f/4L|24-105f/4LIS|70-200f/2.8LIS|50f/1.4|100f/2.8Macro

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Hephaistos
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Mar 06, 2006 05:36 as a reply to OdiN1701's post |  #10

hello,

here are some shots done withe the 17-85, hope it helps !

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canon 350d + 17-85 is usm + Sigma 70/200 f2,8 EX + 50 mm 1,8 + canon 580 ex

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stetner
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Mar 06, 2006 08:10 |  #11

FYI I was having trouble with some of my shots. Then tested my 17-85 as follows:

at 17mm:
focus on something very close.
focus on something ar about 3m
focus on infinity
focus on the same thing at 3m

Try at say 50mm and 85.

I found my lens would focus differently depending if it came from infinity or from close up. It would be at a visibly different distance. IE when focusing on that object 3m away, in one case it would focus at 1.5 on the ring, from the other side it would sit at 3m.

Sent it away and they listed 'clean, focus adjust' and it is working great now.

In other words, do a bit of testing to see if you can see what is going on....

Doug


Equipment: Canon 7D
Canon EF 24-70 F2.8 L - Canon EF-S 10-22mm F3.5-4.5 USM - Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM - Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM - Canon 50mm f/1.8 II - Canon MPE-65 - Tamron 90 mm f/2.8 1:1 Macro - Canon MT-24EX Macro Twin Lite - Canon Speedlite 580 EX

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Mar 07, 2006 08:03 |  #12
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Try these with the NEW 30D.....

http://www.dcresource.​com ..._30d-review/gallery.shtmlexternal link


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Mar 07, 2006 08:14 |  #13

cali wrote:
I have noticed that it lacks sharpness and does not perform under low light. If you do have some good shots with it then I know it is not the lens but because of my failure to set it up correctly.

I find it to be quite sharp and versatile.

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Mar 07, 2006 08:15 as a reply to Airedale1's post |  #14

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Apr 11, 2006 16:32 |  #15

cali wrote:
I am curious to know what kind of results it produces. I have noticed that it lacks sharpness and does not perform under low light. If you do have some good shots with it then I know it is not the lens but because of my failure to set it up correctly. Please post some sample pics that you have taken with the 17-85.

OK, Just got my first DSLR, 20D with this lens, and here is my first posting of any pic to any internet group. My local church the other morning.

Needed some work, as barrel distortion is quite a bit at 17mm, and has some aberration which I think my Fuji S9500 didn't have. A great camera the Fuji, and would recommend highly (1cm macro too!), but been asked to do a wedding and it's just not flexible and fast enough for that kind of photography.

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