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Basketball with 85 f/1.2

 
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Jan 18, 2016 11:17 |  #1

Contrary to all of the comments I've read stating the 85 f/1.2 is no good for basketball (or sports), I found it worked pretty well for me.

I started shooting with a 7DII and a 135 but found it too long and since I don't own the 85 f/1.8, I tried the 1.2 instead. I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't miss any more shots than I was missing with the 135.

Here are some results, all shot at f/2.0:


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Jan 18, 2016 12:37 |  #2

Good for you. I always found it focused too slow for my liking. Even on static objects.


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Jan 18, 2016 13:16 |  #3

It's notoriously a slow focusing lens, but you seemed to have good success!

Were you pre-focusing? Or are you just that good at following the action?




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Jan 18, 2016 13:19 |  #4

Owning a 7DM2 I can say it really compensates for less than stellar lenses. It makes them faster and more accurate.

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Jan 18, 2016 15:22 |  #5

No, I wasn't prefocusing. I was following them across the court with AI Servo. I'm sure I had much better luck than if I had tried it on the 5D III.

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Jan 18, 2016 16:00 |  #6

I would not call the 85L II idea for sports, but like the OP I have found that this lens' reputation for being useless at action to be overstated. I've shot volleyball with the 85L II and had success. The main drawback of the lens is that you cannot make a late decision on who will be the subject of the photo. You have to pick one player, let the AF system get on target and then stick with them. If you do that, the 85L II AF motor can keep up.

Where the AF motor is too slow is if you follow one player and then attempt to jump over to another. Then the time it takes to rack to a different focus distance is quite long.

Finally, I'll suggest that the lens works just fine on the 5D III. No difference in my experience in getting good shots with that vs. the 1D Mark IV......if anything the 5D3 is the most consistent performer I've worked with from Canon.

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Jan 20, 2016 09:19 |  #7

I'll have to give it a try on the 5D III and see how I like it.

^ Nice pics.

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Jan 20, 2016 15:08 |  #8

Nice shot Scobols! looks pretty clean for your 7dMKII at ISO 6400, any noise reduction? Mine seems pretty clean up to ISO 4000 with no noise reduction.


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Jan 21, 2016 06:54 |  #9

Thanks. Yes, I did use NR in Lightroom. At full size they are still pretty noisy.

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Jan 23, 2016 14:58 |  #10

Nice shots. You might want to try setting up in the opposite corner. With most people being right handed, you would have a more direct alignment with their faces instead of them driving to the hoop away from you.


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Jan 27, 2016 08:15 |  #11

years ago I did tons of research on the subject and picked up the 85MM 1.8 USM and it has done great for basketball for me.


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Feb 02, 2016 14:01 |  #12

Nice to see. I'm in the market for a 85 1.2, and I'm glad to see that you can still successfully get some nice action shots.


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Feb 02, 2016 14:29 as a reply to ross.thomas's post |  #13

I happen to be selling this one: http://photography-on-the.net .../showthread.php?t=1​451887

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Feb 03, 2016 15:59 |  #14

Very nice sets both the basketball and volleyball. The only thing to me on the last basketball one is I would have cropped tighter.




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Feb 05, 2016 15:38 |  #15

scobols wrote in post #17863315 (external link)
No, I wasn't prefocusing. I was following them across the court with AI Servo. I'm sure I had much better luck than if I had tried it on the 5D III.

Scott

Both have the same AF so I doubt the 5D3 would have fared better/worse. However, the 7D2 has anti-flickering feature so the exposures would/should be more consistent across. Indoor gym lighting are usually metal-hallide lights that can get very ugly if/when you catch it during cycles, giving you all sorts of nasty color-casts.


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