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Sep 13, 2017 17:21 |  #1186

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I hope Godox fix the alignment issue between the button and onscreen group menu. It just small thing but kinda annoy me.
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Sep 13, 2017 20:40 |  #1187

Yeah that is a bit odd. Not much can be done at this point, since the battery indicator is hardwired into the first line, leaving the rest of the line for channel indicators and other statuses.


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Sep 14, 2017 00:35 |  #1188

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18451655 (external link)
Yeah that is a bit odd. Not much can be done at this point, since the battery indicator is hardwired into the first line, leaving the rest of the line for channel indicators and other statuses.

I'm fascinated by how something super-basic like this finds its way (presumably) into production. Is it that nobody noticed until it was too late?

I know stuff like this happens even in "high-end" products too - I still recall painfully the Pocketwizard TT5 vs. 580EXII fiasco from many years ago. Of course that wasn't just misaligned buttons, and those triggers weren't $80 ....

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Sep 14, 2017 01:06 |  #1189

Adorama has updated their pre-ordered price to $69.




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Sep 14, 2017 01:34 |  #1190

The Flashpoint R2 Pro transmitter pricing has now been corrected to $69.

I'm told all the existing pre-orders will be updated to $69 as well.


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Sep 14, 2017 01:36 |  #1191

level5photog wrote in post #18451788 (external link)
Adorama has updated their pre-ordered price to $69.

Sorry, I had the page open an missed your comment already.


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Sep 14, 2017 02:13 |  #1192

owenegan wrote in post #18451771 (external link)
I'm fascinated by how something super-basic like this finds its way (presumably) into production. Is it that nobody noticed until it was too late?


I could tell you pretty much how its happened, though I don't want to be saying too much negative about Godox now, when at the end of the day we are all just wanting and trying to get better products with them still.

Its probably my fault to some degree, though Godox originally had their side/group buttons so small and close together you would have needed a fingernail or toothpick to access them.

From early on Godox were apposed to the layout we wanted, so the only way forward was for Flashpoint to have their own separate version of the transmitter, and Godox could do things they way they wanted then as well.

So then I couldn't really be telling them what to do with their transmitter as well, but the one thing I did tell them was that their groups buttons were ridiculous, far too small and close together to be usable. Having said that there is no reason they couldn't have revised the buttons to match the LCD screen better once that the layout of that was known. Though they were likely concerned about making them too small and close together etc again, so just left them as they were.

So its a bit unfortunate how this has all gone down, but we could still bring it together really nicely with the Flashpoint version yet later.

The Godox version did still benefit a lot from what we did becasue Godox adopted things we were doing, and its far better now than what they were doing on their own. But like the X1 we didn't really have the opportunity to say you have to update X or Y before release, as Flashpoint can do with their own version. So again there are small things that could be improved with firmware.


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Sep 14, 2017 03:11 |  #1193

owenegan wrote in post #18451771 (external link)
I know stuff like this happens even in "high-end" products too - I still recall painfully the Pocketwizard TT5 vs. 580EXII fiasco from many years ago. Of course that wasn't just misaligned buttons, and those triggers weren't $80 ....

Owen.

PocketWizard could not do any thing about that shield the devices against the 580EX II aka "screaming baby".

You can't compare indeed not this to the desing by Canon by having the 580EX II generating a RF interference.

I know your hate sits deep but you are angry with the victim instead of you causer of the your hate.


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Sep 14, 2017 13:59 |  #1194

mmmfotografie wrote in post #18451836 (external link)
PocketWizard could not do any thing about that shield the devices against the 580EX II aka "screaming baby".

You can't compare indeed not this to the desing by Canon by having the 580EX II generating a RF interference.

I know your hate sits deep but you are angry with the victim instead of you causer of the your hate.


So, you're suggesting that Pocketwizard *knew* beforehand the product they were producing was unusable professionally with the 580EXII, but released it anyway?

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Sep 14, 2017 14:29 |  #1195

just a reminder the D and E group will not work on a Pre 2012 camera like always


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Sep 14, 2017 16:16 |  #1196

owenegan wrote in post #18452301 (external link)
So, you're suggesting that Pocketwizard *knew* beforehand the product they were producing was unusable professionally with the 580EXII, but released it anyway?

Owen.

There are more flashes produced by Canon then the 580EXII. It would be not fair to exclude all those too to be used by he triggers/receivers produced by PocketWizard.

Some first page links by Google about this:

http://www.pocketwizar​d.com ...ch_bulletins/580exi​i_mod/ (external link)

http://www.pocketwizar​d.com ...rations/technology/​range/ (external link)

https://www.flickr.com ...iscuss/721576165617​30052/ (external link)

https://www.photo.net ...oise-interference.448289/ (external link)

http://www.robgalbrait​h.com ...6b.html?cid=7-10050-10598 (external link)

The modification:

http://lezot.com ...ication-for-pocketwizard/ (external link)

It occurred only to owners that were using the 344MHz version of PocketWizards. The 433MHz versions did not suffer to the RF emission noise the 580EXII produced. This because the the RF noise was in the 344MHz band.

http://www.pocketwizar​d.com ...ons/technology/freq​uency/ (external link)

If you could use the PocketWizard devices reliable with the 580EX II depended in which country you bought the PocketWizards.

If only Canon made a clean design you had never had this grunge about that combination of products.


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Sep 14, 2017 18:06 |  #1197

button spacing is fine... you'll get use to it.

how many of you use their TV remote in the dark without even looking at it? I know my TV remote that well and I dont watch tv all that often.

You will get use to it. Maybe the proper fix would of been to have each button a letter instead of a white line.


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Sep 14, 2017 18:41 as a reply to Talley's post |  #1198

Agreed, I am assuming the price will still be better than its competitors; a trend Godox has mastered.


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Sep 14, 2017 19:53 as a reply to Talley's post |  #1199

I use my TV remote almost daily, I will use that remote probably 10 times a year.


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Sep 14, 2017 21:47 |  #1200

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18452547 (external link)
I use my TV remote almost daily, I will use that remote probably 10 times a year.

how dare you not use your trigger daily......

I dunno in my mind I see 1 2 3 4 5 in order so relatively easy for my brain to catch on.


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