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What is my wide angle lens good for?

 
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May 28, 2016 09:12 |  #1

Hello, all. I recently upgraded my Canon Rebel to a 70D. I also got a new lens with it, the Tokina AT-X Pro SD 11-16 f2.8 (IF) DX II. However, so far, not impressed at all. I feel like I was getting much better shots with the Rebel and the Canon 18-135mm than I am with a newer camera and a supposedly better lens. I know the two lenses are different and fit different purposes, but I am not able to get colors right, focus right, no matter what I am shooting, people, places, night, day, sunny or cloudy. Do I just need an adjustment period or a 70D for dummies book, or what? Thanks for any helpful info and tips.


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May 28, 2016 09:59 |  #2

The 18-135mm is much more of a general "carry-around" lens suitable for "everyday" photography. The 11-16mm is a very good lens but it is more of a specialty lens. It is called "ultra-wide" for a reason and generally not suitable for "everyday" or "people" photography. I would suggest that you get another 18-135mm or similar for your "everyday" needs.

One thing puzzles me though: You should not be having problems with focusing the 11-16mm as, even wide open, it should have enough DOF to cover from a few feet in front of the camera to infinity.


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May 28, 2016 10:14 |  #3

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..., but I am not able to get colors right, focus right, no matter what I am shooting, people, places, night, day, sunny or cloudy.

I suspect that you had tweaked the settings on the Rebel & that the 70D is still at the factory specs. Or maybe not if you bought it used.
Go through your manual, page by page, at least once. And if you haven't been shooting RAW, this might be a good time to start. Jpg is an omelet. RAW lets you cook your eggs any way you want them. ;)
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And I agree with the suggestion about the lens. What was your reason for choosing the 11-16?


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May 29, 2016 16:56 as a reply to PhotosGuy's post |  #4

It was a given to me by my father because he wasnt using it anymore. Of course, giving me more options, I took it. :)


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May 29, 2016 18:01 |  #5

I use my ultra wide to shoot live music shows, other than that it doesnt really get used.


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May 30, 2016 10:13 |  #6

Ultrawide is a very tricky style to shoot, and care needs to be taken when using it. Composition is weird to work with, and personally I'm not a huge fan of working with it, and lean more towards very tight telephoto while minimizing background elements from a more foreground subject matter.

That said, it is another focal length to work with. And having more options is always better than having no options. I suggest spending some time on YouTube watching videos of people talking about using them well, and the kind of things you can do.


A favourite way I've seen talked about by several photographers is to pick a main subject matter, and get very close to it. Fill part of the frame with 'something', and then carefully compose the background elements around that. Not a quick and easy thing, but your edges of the frame become terribly important.


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Jun 02, 2016 22:08 |  #7

As you probably know, ultra wide lenses are best used for landscape photography, but I like it for car shows too where cars are parked close together and you can't shoot it at 200mm. UWA was really fun to work with for all my wide encompassing scenery shots, and also in the city getting a wide view of the buildings surrounding me. I don't really take pictures of people so I never used UWA for portraits but I've seen some pictures that turned out great because the use of the lens shows a large portion of background while still allowing the people to be the clear subject. Usually these were wedding shots I was viewing. It just takes time and practice to learn the feel of the lens and how you can use it. I have the 100L macro, but I am not convinced macro is my thing. The lens itself is great, but I just haven't really gotten into that style of photography. Maybe UWA just isn't your thing. Only time will tell.


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Jun 03, 2016 08:07 |  #8

I use my Rokinon 14mm for panoramas and some interior building photography, but not much else. I can't get the hang of it for portraits - I've had a few successes, but for the most part I really prefer the opposite end of the scale for portraits (70-200).


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Jun 03, 2016 10:56 |  #9

I bought a 10-22mm many years ago, hardly used it, it sat in the cupboard. Now I use it lots. Hopeless for portraits, but excellent for architecture, landscapes, buildings, street photography. Mine gets used mostly behind the goal at the footie matches, but that's a bit specialist. I now love it.


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Jun 12, 2016 17:51 |  #10

It sounds to me you just got a used 70D, and used Tokina lens from your Father. First off, find in the manual how to set the 70D back to factory settings. Next check if the lens has been front/rear focus adjusted. Zero out any front/rear focus adjustments. Shoot some test shots, and post them on the forum. This will give more experienced photographers a look at you photos, don't forget allow the EXIF data to be read. A ulta wide angle lens is a very good tool for shooting scenery, and real estate or can be used for portraits, but care has to be taken when setting up the shot. As far as focusing problems, I don't own a Tokina product. You may want to look at reviews about the color rendition of the lens, the color problem may just be the nature of the beast.

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Jun 22, 2016 09:51 |  #11

Thanks for all the feedback, everyone. I have still been experimenting with this lens in a variety of situations and it just seems to be nearly useless. From long range scenery shots to close range material, the edges are still consistently blurry, so I think maybe the lens is damaged. Oh well. Thanks again.


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Jun 23, 2016 12:51 |  #12

So, I tried this DIY fix I found on multiple blogs. It involved taking parts of the lens off and adjusting the focus range screws and this seems to have helped a lot. I think some of the problem is still my inexperience, but there is certainly a noticeable improvement in the shots with this Tokina lens now. It wasn't that hard to pull off either. Here is the link if anyone wants to pass it on or try it themselves:

http://www.christiansc​hmeer.com/blog/ (external link)


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