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Sep 01, 2016 09:38 |  #1

Interesting. Tamron has already updated the 150-600. I personally was hoping to see the 100-400 that put a Patent out for. I didn't thing the 150-600 really needed an update. I know people were complaining about the VC when panning but didn't a forward update fix that?

I still am interested in seeing reviews on this. It would save be $700 over a new 100-400 II from Canon of its up to the task.

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Sep 01, 2016 10:45 |  #2

FEChariot wrote in post #18113537 (external link)
Interesting. Tamron has already updated the 150-600. I personally was hoping to see the 100-400 that put a Patent out for. I didn't thing the 150-600 really needed an update. I know people were complaining about the VC when panning but didn't a forward update fix that?

I still am interested in seeing reviews on this. It would save be $700 over a new 100-400 II from Canon of its up to the task.

http://www.canonrumors​.com …-600mm-di-vc-usd-g2-lens/ (external link)

"developed to provide superior optical performance with today’s high resolution DSLRs"

sounds like a worthy. The optics of the previous version was good all the way to 5-600mm, where it fell off a bit. Maintaining that IQ would be huge IMO.

the 1:0.39 macro is pretty big too

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Sep 01, 2016 11:09 |  #3

plus they wanted to add the ability to use the Dock on it. to compete more with the sigma


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Sep 01, 2016 11:14 |  #4

FEChariot wrote in post #18113537 (external link)
Interesting. Tamron has already updated the 150-600. I personally was hoping to see the 100-400 that put a Patent out for. I didn't thing the 150-600 really needed an update. I know people were complaining about the VC when panning but didn't a forward update fix that?

I still am interested in seeing reviews on this. It would save be $700 over a new 100-400 II from Canon of its up to the task.

http://www.canonrumors​.com …-600mm-di-vc-usd-g2-lens/ (external link)


Unfortunately the VC fix simply turned the VC system off automatically when it detects panning. So you are still stuck with no VC if you are needing to use slow shutter speeds for prop blur etc. I had a detailed discussion on the phone with a Tamron rep from the UK importer about this issue, this was before the fix, and the conclusion was that the existing auto switching VC system used in the zooms up to 300mm was unable to deal with the magnification at 600mm, so they had to use a different system. To enable VC during panning would require a hardware fix. Below about 1/500 the feedback was bad enough that virtually every shot with any sort of lens movement was affected, even ones shot at 150mm. Get it up to 1/1000 or faster and it seemed to be OK with the VC on while panning.

It looks like they have matched the Sigma offering specifically the Sport specification, I wonder where the pricing will be though. I see they also have a dock for firmware updates, and some control of the VC system, doesn't seem to offer the multi-point MFA though. It will be interesting to see where the new Tamron ends up IQ wise compared to the Sigmas. I have used the Tamron, and the Sigma C, along with the original 100-400L, and I would rate those three lenses as Sigma, then Canon and finally Tamron for IQ, and of course as far as I was concerned, the Tamron effectively lacked image stabilisation. So although Tamron beat Sigma to market, the Sigma was the better lens, especially once the prices equalised. I now have the Sigma C and am very happy with it.

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Sep 01, 2016 11:15 |  #5

05Xrunner wrote in post #18113626 (external link)
plus they wanted to add the ability to use the Dock on it. to compete more with the sigma

there's a bunch of cool stuff on that lens. The mark 1 was a big success I think, they werent able to match the demand for many months and estabilished itself as a very powerful economy lens. IMO, this can be another big hit if the MTF values are high enough. They're even advertising teleconverters to make this 1200mm...... so to even make that claim, you've got to have a very strong baseline 600mm. I would love to add this to my on going collection of lenses :twisted:, 400 just always felt short after you shoot 600 for a bit, hence I've never really committed to a 100-400 lens. Size isnt that big of a deal, I have a small 70-300 when small size matters.


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Sep 01, 2016 11:22 |  #6

the pricing looks to be $1399


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Sep 01, 2016 11:47 |  #7

Dpreview has the MTF chart posted. Looks like a small improvement in sharpness over the older one especially at 600mm. Can't wait for reviews on this.


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Sep 01, 2016 11:59 |  #8

Sounds great. I'm looking forward to see how this lens performs compared to the Sigma 150-600 C or S.


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Sep 01, 2016 12:02 |  #9

FEChariot wrote in post #18113670 (external link)
Dpreview has the MTF chart posted. Looks like a small improvement in sharpness over the older one especially at 600mm. Can't wait for reviews on this.

the change looks massive IMO, it looks optimized for 600!

Too bad I'm tapped dry for funds this year :-P


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Sep 01, 2016 12:09 |  #10

Charlie wrote in post #18113689 (external link)
the change looks massive IMO, it looks optimized for 600!

Too bad I'm tapped dry for funds this year :-P

I am not great at reading MTF so I hope you are right. Can't wait to see comparison shots at 600 with the Sigma C and 100-400 II with the 1.4 tc3


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Sep 01, 2016 15:49 |  #11

I am also excited about seeing the tests and reviews. I hope that a competent person sets it up correctly with the dock, so we will know what its true potential is. In that regard, I am especially looking forward to Dustin Abbott's review over at Canon Rumors. He has tested the Tamron primes that use the dock, and has great things to say about its functionality.

This new lens has a metal body, but is only 60g heavier than the first version. With additional weather sealing that Tamron is promising, it may well compete with the Sigma S. At nearly 2 lb lighter! At 2 lb lighter, it only has to come close to the Sigma for me!


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Sep 01, 2016 17:37 |  #12

So Tamron and Sigma are trying to match most of Canon/Nikon long zooms, good news, i have Canon 100-400 mk1, if i will sell this then i am not sure which lens i should get for Wildlife Safari and birds as zoom lens.


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Sep 02, 2016 08:09 |  #13

Tareq wrote in post #18113945 (external link)
So Tamron and Sigma are trying to match most of Canon/Nikon long zooms, good news, i have Canon 100-400 mk1, if i will sell this then i am not sure which lens i should get for Wildlife Safari and birds as zoom lens.

I have had the Tamron (do we call it G1 now?) for a couple of years, and I have no complaints at all. I had the 100-400 mk1, and the Tamron gives me as good results as I ever got with the Canon, with an additional 200mm on the long end. I know that some people (who will certainly chime in here) have had problems with the AF on the Tamron, and to avoid that possibility I sent mine to Tamron for the firmware upgrade addressing these issues. The fix was free, I was without my lens for about a week, and I have had no AF problems. I have a friend with the Sigma C, and he is very happy with it. I don't think that there is much of a difference in IQ between these lenses.

The Sigma S is a different beast, and some may say that it is not really in competition with the other two. However, the head-to-head comparisons of these three lenses have found little to no differences in IQ. And the S costs much more (although you get more weight for your money).

The new Tamron lens has the appearance of being a meaningful improvement. The optical formula is updated, so it is not the same glass in a new tube. The changes appear to emphasize performance at the long end. BTW, that tube is metal, not plastic. VC performance, and both AF speed and AF performance were targeted for improvement. Weather sealing throughout the lens has been added. And then there are many features that will simply make the lens easier to use. I expect that a year from now, many buyers who would have selected the Sigma S over the existing competition will be buying the G2 instead, assuming that its performance matches the specs.


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Sep 02, 2016 09:25 |  #14

I am excited with this lens too. Can't wait to see some reviews and pictures, Does anyone know when will this be out?. I sold my G1 and I miss it. I am glad there is a new version coming up.


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Sep 02, 2016 10:00 |  #15

Peter2516 wrote in post #18114464 (external link)
I am excited with this lens too. Can't wait to see some reviews and pictures, Does anyone know when will this be out?. I sold my G1 and I miss it. I am glad there is a new version coming up.

Sounds like the Asian market will see it on Sept 23rd and shortly after for the rest of the world


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