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What to Charge for Senior Photo Session?

 
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Sep 26, 2016 09:00 |  #1

I usually shoot sports but when an acquaintance of mine recently asked me to shoot her son's senior photos for a fee, I thought I'd give it a go.

Yesterday, we had the session at a local park, and I'm quite pleased with the results. I'm currently "developing" the RAW photos into full resolution JPEG and will hand them all over to the client, I'd say 50-70 of the best images.

The question I have is how much is reasonable to charge for about 2 hours of on-location shooting and handing over all JPEG images with no printing involved.

Any input appreciated.



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Sep 26, 2016 10:09 |  #2

Tough question! "Reasonable" for one person might be "exorbitant" for another. & wouldn't it have been nice if you had discussed that with the client before the shoot?
Ottumwa, Iowa vs. New York prices will be very different, & I've read where some complex shoots go for $1-3,000. What it boils down to is what is considered "reasonable" in your home town on Gilligan's island, no?


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Sep 26, 2016 11:02 |  #3

PhotosGuy wrote in post #18140887 (external link)
Tough question! "Reasonable" for one person might be "exorbitant" for another. & wouldn't it have been nice if you had discussed that with the client before the shoot?

The client is someone I know and I didn't want to be too "business like" with her. I did give her a ballpark figure of "around $100" but I'm not sure whether that's on the high or low side for a gig like this.



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Sep 26, 2016 14:26 |  #4

SYS wrote in post #18140831 (external link)
I usually shoot sports but when an acquaintance of mine recently asked me to shoot her son's senior photos for a fee, I thought I'd give it a go.

Yesterday, we had the session at a local park, and I'm quite pleased with the results. I'm currently "developing" the RAW photos into full resolution JPEG and will hand them all over to the client, I'd say 50-70 of the best images.

The question I have is how much is reasonable to charge for about 2 hours of on-location shooting and handing over all JPEG images with no printing involved.

Any input appreciated.

How much is your time worth? have you calculated your COB?

I understand that you don't want to be 'business-like' with this potential client, but that kind of conflicts with you posting in a 'business of photography' forum.

If you want to charge a reasonable rate, calculate your costs of doing business, and average that out to the number of hours you plan to bill in a month or year. From there, you'll have a minimum rate that you need to charge to break even. If this potential contact is someone you're willing to shoot without a profit, then charge her your cost of business hourly rate. That seems fair enough.

If you want to know the market rate, then that will be directly affected by what market you're looking at. I don't know what the prices are on "Gilligan's Island", which is the location in your profile, so I can't help you understand what is fair in that market.


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Sep 27, 2016 14:48 |  #5

If you already told her about 100.00 for the shoot, then I think you need to charge her about 100.00. She wouldn't be very happy if you told her 200.00 after the fact IMO.


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Chris wrote in post #18141992 (external link)
If you already told her about 100.00 for the shoot, then I think you need to charge her about 100.00. She wouldn't be very happy if you told her 200.00 after the fact IMO.

Of course, not. My concern is the other way around, i.e., whether $100 is too much for HER. In fact, I did send her 60 full resolution photo images and $100 charge. She hasn't responded.



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Sep 30, 2016 06:11 |  #7

SYS wrote in post #18142414 (external link)
Of course, not. My concern is the other way around, i.e., whether $100 is too much for HER. In fact, I did send her 60 full resolution photo images and $100 charge. She hasn't responded.

You already sent her the images? Don't be surprised if you get $0.00. When you order an item on-line do they send it to you and then trust you will send the payment? Does the grocery store allow you to take the merchandise without paying first?

Are in actually in business with your sports shooting? We must think like business people.


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Sep 30, 2016 07:45 |  #8

How much does she pay her hair stylist for a cut and color? ..... that lasts for how long? She's getting 60 handcrafted heirloom images that she will cherish for a lifetime. 100 bucks? Are you kidding me? smh




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Sep 30, 2016 08:05 |  #9

w/e the market will bare


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Sep 30, 2016 09:18 |  #10

BlakeC wrote in post #18144399 (external link)
w/e the market will bare

"Bare" stuff goes in the G&N forum! ; )


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Sep 30, 2016 09:23 |  #11

I fully understand the sentiments expressed. I don't do this as a "business" so it was hard putting a price on a service to someone I'm acquainted through my son's (and her son's) involvement in a musical ensemble. Because of the musical ensemble rehearsals, we see each other on a weekly basis. Of course, I wouldn't have sent her the images and the bill if she were a total stranger to me. I did receive her confirmation that she's going to pay me at our next rehearsal meeting. She has also hired me to do a couple more photo shoots.

For those of you that have expressed disapproval for the amount that I charged for the kind of service I provided, I'd be grateful if you'd give me some ballpark $$$ figure that you charge, whether it's to acquaintances or not.



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Sep 30, 2016 09:50 |  #12

^ ^ If you're happy with the price, & she's happy with the price, (& she must be because she's hiring you for more), then it's all good, no?


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Sep 30, 2016 10:31 |  #13

PhotosGuy wrote in post #18144486 (external link)
^ ^ If you're happy with the price, & she's happy with the price, (& she must be because she's hiring you for more), then it's all good, no?

That's right. For THIS particular situation, I'm happy with the way things turned out. If I were a "professional" who does this full time as a career, then that's another matter.



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Sep 30, 2016 11:06 |  #14

SYS wrote in post #18144521 (external link)
That's right. For THIS particular situation, I'm happy with the way things turned out. If I were a "professional" who does this full time as a career, then that's another matter.

That's true. You are both happy. But remember, you are setting her perception of value for senior photos in the industry as a whole - and anyone she talks to.


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Sep 30, 2016 11:43 |  #15

The question I have is how much is reasonable to charge for about 2 hours of on-location shooting and handing over all JPEG images with no printing involved.

Reasonable in my market:
If you suck - $100
If you're good - $500
If you're awesome - $1000+




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