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Godox AD360II vs AD360

 
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Oct 21, 2016 12:18 |  #1

I have four of the Flashpoint Streaklight 360 units (same as the Godox AD360.) I'd like to add two more units so I have backups but I'm torn between getting the original manual units which are cheaper or the newer versions with TTL. I'm not sure I would use the TTL function that much. I have been using Canon cameras for years and have owned a 430 EX and now a 600 EX-RT and I find Canon's E-TTL system to be more finicky than I like. I wouldn't photograph an event with the speedlite in manual mode but, for off-camera studio lighting, I'm not sure it would save me much effort when having to fine tune the settings.

Other than the addition of TTL and the integrated 2.4 gHz receiver, what advantages do the newer versions offer over the original manual ones? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the extra money for them. (I do own an X1 transmitter for Canon and have a 2.4 gHz receiver for one of my manual units so the trigger wouldn't be an issue. I can always get three additional 2.4 gHz receivers for my older units.)




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Oct 21, 2016 12:29 |  #2

If you don't need TTL then I would stick with the older version and I think the 433Hz is more reliable then the new 2.4Ghz


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Oct 21, 2016 12:43 |  #3

abbadon31 wrote in post #18163021 (external link)
If you don't need TTL then I would stick with the older version and I think the 433Hz is more reliable then the new 2.4Ghz

Thanks, Shom!




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Oct 21, 2016 17:57 as a reply to magicmikey's post |  #4

And if you really want to save some money, PM me.
I have 4 of the original version that I'm willing to sell.


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Oct 21, 2016 18:09 |  #5

dmward wrote in post #18163320 (external link)
And if you really want to save some money, PM me.
I have 4 of the original version that I'm willing to sell.

Here I am avoiding the marketplace and you post this here!

Do you take anonymous internet credit?


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Oct 21, 2016 18:12 |  #6

dmward wrote in post #18163320 (external link)
And if you really want to save some money, PM me.
I have 4 of the original version that I'm willing to sell.

Hey Dave. What are you going to replace them with?


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Oct 21, 2016 18:44 |  #7

magicmikey wrote in post #18163014 (external link)
I have four of the Flashpoint Streaklight 360 units (same as the Godox AD360.) I'd like to add two more units so I have backups but I'm torn between getting the original manual units which are cheaper or the newer versions with TTL. I'm not sure I would use the TTL function that much. I have been using Canon cameras for years and have owned a 430 EX and now a 600 EX-RT and I find Canon's E-TTL system to be more finicky than I like. I wouldn't photograph an event with the speedlite in manual mode but, for off-camera studio lighting, I'm not sure it would save me much effort when having to fine tune the settings.

Other than the addition of TTL and the integrated 2.4 gHz receiver, what advantages do the newer versions offer over the original manual ones? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the extra money for them. (I do own an X1 transmitter for Canon and have a 2.4 gHz receiver for one of my manual units so the trigger wouldn't be an issue. I can always get three additional 2.4 gHz receivers for my older units.)

If you often use HSS, the AD360ii will switch automatically to hss when your ss is above max sync speed. (using X1 trigger)




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Oct 22, 2016 06:47 |  #8

I changed to the MK2 because of the HSS Thermal limit, the MK2 is 30 shots at full power compared to 10 on the MK1, as a Wedding Photographer this speeds up my workflow rather than using ND filters.
Also the new XT32c is brilliant, totally reliable...:)


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Oct 22, 2016 08:24 |  #9

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #18163330 (external link)
Hey Dave. What are you going to replace them with?

I have 4 600s with H600 heads.


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Sep 25, 2017 22:32 |  #10

I have two manual 360s and just now getting HSS to work I see that the older 360s i have will only go down to 1/8 power in HSS i am told the newer ones will go all the way down in HSS. This might be a reason to go with a newer one.




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Sep 26, 2017 04:30 |  #11

magicmikey wrote in post #18163014 (external link)
I have four of the Flashpoint Streaklight 360 units (same as the Godox AD360.) I'd like to add two more units so I have backups but I'm torn between getting the original manual units which are cheaper or the newer versions with TTL. I'm not sure I would use the TTL function that much. I have been using Canon cameras for years and have owned a 430 EX and now a 600 EX-RT and I find Canon's E-TTL system to be more finicky than I like. I wouldn't photograph an event with the speedlite in manual mode but, for off-camera studio lighting, I'm not sure it would save me much effort when having to fine tune the settings.

Other than the addition of TTL and the integrated 2.4 gHz receiver, what advantages do the newer versions offer over the original manual ones? I'm trying to decide if it's worth the extra money for them. (I do own an X1 transmitter for Canon and have a 2.4 gHz receiver for one of my manual units so the trigger wouldn't be an issue. I can always get three additional 2.4 gHz receivers for my older units.)


Definitely worth the extra money, overheat protection cuts in later, part of the X1 series, latest is an improvement working manual as well as TTL, 2.4GHz works perfectly why would you want to buy into older generation equipment?

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Sep 26, 2017 05:29 |  #12

DigitalEd wrote in post #18460526 (external link)
I have two manual 360s and just now getting HSS to work I see that the older 360s i have will only go down to 1/8 power in HSS i am told the newer ones will go all the way down in HSS. This might be a reason to go with a newer one.

HSS setting is used to reduce the ambient light in the picture by reducing the exposure to it. Then you need also more flashlight to compensate so only going down to 1/8 defendable.

If you don't totally depend on TTL then then going for newer is not needed.

Also you can easily pre-sync, faster than x-sync, you can get the XTR16 receivers for cheap and use the X series triggers by Godox.


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Sep 26, 2017 13:16 |  #13

We all have our own experiences and needs, and in both instances, I've found the 360 II to be worth every extra penny paid even though I have yet to use the TTL feature. I'm often ND'ing the Manual version to get below 1/8th power. I love the fact that the TTL models jump to HSS intelligently. The extended shooting before thermal protect, the faster recycle times in HSS due to being able to go lower than 1/8th, all welcome.

The only gripe I have with the TTL units? There's no beep confirm on power changes from the X1 transmitter :(

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HSS setting is used to reduce the ambient light in the picture by reducing the exposure to it. Then you need also more flashlight to compensate so only going down to 1/8 defendable.

If you don't totally depend on TTL then then going for newer is not needed.

Also you can easily pre-sync, faster than x-sync, you can get the XTR16 receivers for cheap and use the X series triggers by Godox.


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Sep 26, 2017 14:47 as a reply to jlafferty's post |  #14

My text sandwiches yours.


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Sep 26, 2017 22:48 |  #15

I ended up buying a pair of the AD360II (FlashPoint version) in November when Adorama did the super low price on them. (They were only $349.95 when they went on sale so the price difference was minimal.) I have only used the TTL a handful of times but it is convenient to have the receiver built-in. When I'm going for a quick setup, I use the TTL versions. When I'm doing my studio setup, I usually use the manual ones, although I've had a couple of five light setups where I used both together.




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