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New Canon 85mm f/1.4 IS (yes, IS) Announced.

 
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Nov 19, 2016 18:53 |  #1

It looks like we’re going to get a new 85mm lens from Canon. We’ve been trying to nail down exactly what the lens would be, and we finally have.

The Canon EF 85mm f/1.4L IS USM will be announced in 2017, though we’re still trying to nail down an estimated announcement timeframe.

We don’t know if the EF 85mm f/1.4L IS will be a replacement for the EF 85mm f/1.2L II or an addition to the lineup.

More to come…

EDIT by Admin: It's announced


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Nov 20, 2016 00:59 |  #2

If 85L with IS is possible, so a 135L with 1.4 aperture is possible too ;-)a




  
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Nov 20, 2016 02:49 |  #3

As long as we're playing in La-la land, I'd like a 300mm f/1.4 IS, with a cup-holder. And a truck to carry it around in.


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Nov 20, 2016 12:03 |  #4

I think Canon is realising that the sales of the 35LII are not as good as what they hoped because they where to late to counter the Sigma. I think they won't let that happen again. Clever to rumor a lens just when a Art competitor is released.


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Nov 20, 2016 12:32 |  #5

PeterAlex7 wrote in post #18189462 (external link)
If 85L with IS is possible, so a 135L with 1.4 aperture is possible too ;-)a

That'd be the opposite of what they're possibly doing here...the lens is dropping to f1.4...so maybe they'd go 135f2.2 with IS


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Nov 20, 2016 12:32 |  #6

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As long as we're playing in La-la land, I'd like a 300mm f/1.4 IS, with a cup-holder. And a truck to carry it around in.

How is a 85 f1.4 IS really la la land?


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Nov 20, 2016 13:13 |  #7

I'll take it.


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Nov 20, 2016 13:45 |  #8

DreDaze wrote in post #18189824 (external link)
How is a 85 f1.4 IS really la la land?

I think the reference might have been to the dreamed 135/1.4


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Nov 20, 2016 15:44 as a reply to  @ DreDaze's post |  #9

Dropping the aperture only happen when they adding IS to the lens, at least that was happened to the 200L and this unofficial 85L IS.

No one playing in la-la land here, because nikon just made a 105mm prime with 1.4 aperture (10% ligther than the sigma 85A) and maybe some of us didn't expect it to come before the announcement.

Tech is moving forward, don't put your pessimistic here, they fight each other just to win our money they will keep offering something new to us. Sigma starts the 'innovation war' with their large aperture uwa lenses, then tamron with the stabilized 1.8 primes, then nikon with the world first 105mm f1.4, and now we are about to face the first stabilized 85mm f1.4 lens from canon.




  
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Nov 20, 2016 18:14 |  #10

PeterAlex7 wrote in post #18190014 (external link)
Dropping the aperture only happen when they adding IS to the lens, at least that was happened to the 200L and this unofficial 85L IS.

No one playing in la-la land here, because nikon just made a 105mm prime with 1.4 aperture (10% ligther than the sigma 85A) and maybe some of us didn't expect it to come before the announcement.

Tech is moving forward, don't put your pessimistic here, they fight each other just to win our money they will keep offering something new to us. Sigma starts the 'innovation war' with their large aperture uwa lenses, then tamron with the stabilized 1.8 primes, then nikon with the world first 105mm f1.4, and now we are about to face the first stabilized 85mm f1.4 lens from canon.

I'm not sure if it's pessemistic or realistic...other companies are coming out with faster lenses...some even still have Stabilization...they'r​e also coming out with faster zoom lenses...some with stabilization...meanwh​ile canon just came out with a 24-105II that appears to be marginally better

I dont see this lens really being a replacement for the 85L II...There would be a lot of angry people if they discontinued that in favor of this lens...


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Nov 20, 2016 23:25 |  #11

DreDaze wrote in post #18190137 (external link)
I'm not sure if it's pessemistic or realistic...other companies are coming out with faster lenses...some even still have Stabilization...they'r​e also coming out with faster zoom lenses...some with stabilization...meanwh​ile canon just came out with a 24-105II that appears to be marginally better

I dont see this lens really being a replacement for the 85L II...There would be a lot of angry people if they discontinued that in favor of this lens...

I think making a 1.2 85mm lens with fast, accurate, and consistent AF would cost them a lot, rather than make it 1.4 and add stabilizer. The only drawback of dropping the aperture was just losing 1/3 stop of light, but the IS will grant us 4 stops comoensation. I don't have to explain it ofcourse.

But I'm pretty sure they make it this way because it is cheaper to do (they already have an excellent IS, and making a 1.4 lens supposed to be cheaper than a 1.2 lens), none of their competitors offer the same lens, in term of light the drawback was just too small compared with the benefits to be obtained. To me this would be a great replacement.




  
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Nov 20, 2016 23:45 |  #12

I'm about to get the Canon 85mm 1.2L but after read this article, what should I do lol :)




  
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Nov 21, 2016 01:10 |  #13

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I'm about to get the Canon 85mm 1.2L but after read this article, what should I do lol :)

I presume it's the mark II version your about to get. You can get an excellent hardly used one for $1200, If and when the rumoured one comes out it will surely be priced over $2,000.

The current 85 f/1.2 will be half a stop faster than the rumoured one. It's fun to use, it's a challenge to use, it takes patience to master it....but when you have nailed it....It's unbeatable. It truly is a wonderful lens.

A large aperture allows the use of fast shutter speeds when shooting in low light. IS is not needed. Not once did I wish my 85L(II) had IS. You will be paying the extra money for something that is not needed at all.

My opinion is don't wait just buy the 85L (II) you will not regret it.


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Nov 21, 2016 19:50 as a reply to  @ PCousins's post |  #14

Thank You for your suggestions ! i think i'm gonna get 1.2 instead. Pretty sure IS will be over 2k :)




  
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Nov 22, 2016 02:21 |  #15

This sounds promising to me. I don't need f1.2 and to be fair I probably don't need f1.4, but it would be nice to have it and I'd like to upgrade my 1.8 at some point in the future.

The primes I have are light and I like this about them so a heavy L lens wouldnt necessarily be perfect for me.

What do you guys think the weight would be compared to the current 1.2? A little bit heavier (because a lot of the newer lenses seem to be?), a little bit lighter because of the 1.2-1.4, a little bit heavier because of IS. About the same?!


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