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PJmak
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Dec 01, 2016 16:45 |  #1

The a6300 seemed really popular. Why are there only two threads on the a6500?

Has anyone picked up one yet?

What are your thought and impressions. Please share images too.


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Dec 01, 2016 18:46 |  #2

I've got one on the way. It will be paired with the Sony Zeiss (Zony) 24 1.8 & Sony E 50 1.8. Add one speedlite and that will round out my nice little kit. No more DSLRs for me. Just to big for needs. I will likely post a bit but we're headed into time of year without much color. Need ski season to get fired up!


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Dec 02, 2016 08:48 |  #3

Yeah, I'm feeling the same Surprised to not see many A6500 posts at this point




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Dec 02, 2016 17:38 |  #4

Mine is here. No manual. One not available for download from the sony site yet either...."coming soon". Kinda ridiculous really. I have no clue as to the specific of using the touch screen. I've searched the web without much luck. Can anyone point me toward a sony AF/touchscreen tutorial?


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Dec 02, 2016 18:27 |  #5

I would suggest gary fong or jason lanier possibly

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=lKf-nYhQjqc (external link)

also, super important to properly setup your sony

this may help you get on track: https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=Fd9zeXYE1Tk (external link)


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Dec 02, 2016 20:06 |  #6

Thanks. Man, I didn't realize how little I had to think when using 5D3. It was all autopilot. This is going to take some serious getting used to.


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Dec 02, 2016 20:43 |  #7

idsurfer wrote in post #18201551 (external link)
Thanks. Man, I didn't realize how little I had to think when using 5D3. It was all autopilot. This is going to take some serious getting used to.

it's a huge learning curve, but get over how to setup and map controls, it'll help you acclimate real fast.


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Dec 03, 2016 11:43 |  #8

PJmak wrote in post #18200458 (external link)
The a6300 seemed really popular. Why are there only two threads on the a6500?

Has anyone picked up one yet?

What are your thought and impressions. Please share images too.


After ~7 hours of fiddling between last night and this morning I've concluded that the touchscreen is crap. No pinch/zoom when reviewing photos. No swiping through photos. No navigation through menu. Basically only useful for moving AF point around. Having never used a touchscreen for that I really don't trust that I won't move it inadvertently between shots. I've flat out turned it off for now. Will be using the touch pad/wheel for selecting AP points. Perhaps it's more helpful with video. I suppose the IBIS and greater buffering is nice for video and/or continuous shooting. In reality I could have probably been just as happy with the a6300. Oh well....

Edit: It's now been a week and the dust has settled. The above comment was made a bit harsh. I could just delete it but I'll go ahead own it admitting that it was made a bit hastily. While the touchscreen is not the most sophisticated, it certainly is nice for quick AF point selection , both stills and video. I think this camera is going to work just fine.


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Dec 03, 2016 12:47 |  #9

idsurfer wrote in post #18202073 (external link)
After ~7 hours of fiddling between last night and this morning I've concluded that the touchscreen is crap. No pinch/zoom when reviewing photos. No swiping through photos. No navigation through menu. Basically only useful for moving AF point around. Having never used a touchscreen for that I really don't trust that I won't move it inadvertently between shots. I've flat out turned it off for now. Will be using the touch pad/wheel for selecting AP points. Perhaps it's more helpful with video. I suppose the IBIS and greater buffering is nice for video and/or continuous shooting. In reality I could have probably been just as happy with the a6300. Oh well....

As someone who came from Canon, and has had no joystick for fast movement of AF point for the last year with the A7Rii, I would kill to have that "crap" touchscreen. haha


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Dec 03, 2016 13:08 |  #10

Yeah, I am very much missing the joystick.


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Dec 04, 2016 14:41 |  #11

Cory stick with it (the camera not the screen). The change from canon takes a bit of getting used to but once you map all your custom buttons and map the Fn menu the way you want it you will start to know where things are. IBIS is not much help for people photos but for stills it's amazing as it allows you to shoot lower ISO in low light

I find that really odd there's no manual!


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Dec 04, 2016 17:10 |  #12

Oh yes Eddie, I'm committed at this point! It's not going back. ;-)a My earlier post was made a bit hastily. I've now spent most of the past two days getting familiar with the layout/handling (size!), LCD symbols, AF system, etc... Combined with figuring out the subtle differences between Canon and Sony nomenclature it's been a bit more overwhelming than anticipated. A manual would be nice! Trying to fiddle with the touchscreen was just getting annoying. Turning it off for now was the right thing to do. I'm about there with getting things mapped out and set up the way I want. Once things start to flow a bit more naturally I'll likely turn it back on for another trial. While seemingly not that sophisticated, I'm sure it's got to be helpful in some way.


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Dec 05, 2016 16:11 |  #13

While I do not have an a6500, and I'm not necessarily planning on getting one, I did find The Camera Store's video on the 6500 very informative. It looks like a great body, overall, especially for stills.

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=0yL5VhXRL1o (external link)

Honestly, I'm still very happy with the a6000.


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Dec 10, 2016 12:14 |  #14

I would love to think there will be an enthusiastic group of folks using the a6500 but I doubt there will be many early adopters. My guess is most will be content with their a6300. Coming from 5D3, I'm not even close to being comfortable with this camera yet. Feels like a cross between a point and shoot and larger DSLR. But that was the whole point...get into a compact camera with good IQ that I can take anywhere. Still working on configuration of the custom settings to offer the most effortless and efficient user experience. Starting to get the feel of using the touch screen for AF point selection. On the whole it's like starting over with regard to ergonomics. With time I think things will smooth out.

Clearly it's not comparing apples to apples between the a6500 and 5d3, but the a6500 is definitely inferior when it comes to low light performance. Obviously 5D3 is cleaner at high ISO's. I miss the bigger sensor's light gathering capabilities. It might be too early in the game, but I've yet to get much that I'm happy with @6400 in dark conditions. I don't mind noise. I just don't do muddy images. This is not a final conclusion though....just posting some random thoughts.

I'm also quite certain the a6500 and/or the 2 lenses I have at this point hunt considerably more in low light than my 5d3 set up.

I also feel like I'm struggling with the Sony color rendition. If anyone has any pointers on how to get nice colors from these a6xx cameras, I'm all ears. I'm shooting RAW files and PP in LR.

These are by no means a real world examples. Flash in an otherwise dark room. a6500 paired with E 50/1.8 @ 1.8. Pretty impressive little lens. Reminds me of the EF 85 1.8.

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Dec 10, 2016 15:08 |  #15

idsurfer wrote in post #18208838 (external link)
I would love to think there will be an enthusiastic group of folks using the a6500 but I doubt there will be many early adopters. My guess is most will be content with their a6300. Coming from 5D3, I'm not even close to being comfortable with this camera yet. Feels like a cross between a point and shoot and larger DSLR. But that was the whole point...get into a compact camera with good IQ that I can take anywhere. Still working on configuration of the custom settings to offer the most effortless and efficient user experience. Starting to get the feel of using the touch screen for AF point selection. On the whole it's like starting over with regard to ergonomics. With time I think things will smooth out.

Clearly it's not comparing apples to apples between the a6500 and 5d3, but the a6500 is definitely inferior when it comes to low light performance. Obviously 5D3 is cleaner at high ISO's. I miss the bigger sensor's light gathering capabilities. It might be too early in the game, but I've yet to get much that I'm happy with @6400 in dark conditions. I don't mind noise. I just don't do muddy images. This is not a final conclusion though....just posting some random thoughts.

I'm also quite certain the a6500 and/or the 2 lenses I have at this point hunt considerably more in low light than my 5d3 set up.

I also feel like I'm struggling with the Sony color rendition. If anyone has any pointers on how to get nice colors from these a6xx cameras, I'm all ears. I'm shooting RAW files and PP in LR.

These are by no means a real world examples. Flash in an otherwise dark room. a6500 paired with E 50/1.8 @ 1.8. Pretty impressive little lens. Reminds me of the EF 85 1.8.

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It is so hard to compare FF at higher ISO to a cop body. For a short period of time, I still had my 6D along with an a6000--but I knew I was upgrading the 6D to an A7R. As good as the a6500 is at high ISO, asking it to replace a quality high ISO FF body like the 5D3 is a very tall order. Why not try an A7 series if you high ISO is a stumbling block for you?


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