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Feb 13, 2017 12:23 |  #1

Real confusion with the specs released.

Number of effective pixels: 24.2 million pixels
Video engine: DIGIC 7
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AF point: 45 points
Burst: Up to 6 frames per second
ISO speed: 100 - 25600
Display: 3-inch Touch Panel Vari-Angle Liquid Crystal
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Size: 131.0 × 99.9 × 76.2 mm
Weight: 540 g

So close to the 80D on paper but the first XXD Enthusiast range camera to be offered in a Rebel Body and missing some important controls.

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Feb 13, 2017 12:45 |  #2

DIGIC 7, up from 6 on on the 80D seems like a natural progression. Undoubtedly the 90D will have it as well.
AF point count is a little surprising.
Burst, well 6 isn't all that great anymore. I'm betting the 90D has around 8-9.
ISO, again kind of surprisingly high range that matches the 80D.
Pixel count, one of those things where it seems Canon is making 24 the new minimum. Maybe the 90D will have around 28-32, enough to set it apart without encroaching on the 5D.

Taken as a whole, this certainly looks like a great Rebel, if the specs pan out. Previously I never would have considered a Rebel for sports shooting but if I was on a budget, for sure I'd give this one a look.

I think it's important to note that the 80D is now a year old. Perhaps Canon decided to jump all the lines up this past year. However since the 50D release, Canon has been waiting 2-3 years between upgrades for the xxD line. I wonder if this means they will return to the pre-50D release timeline. If so, maybe we can expect a 90D before the year's end.

I don't see them releasing a Rebel with these stats and letting it eat into 80D's territory for long. But then, stranger things have happened *cough* Mac Pro *cough*


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Feb 13, 2017 12:58 |  #3

ProwlingTiger wrote in post #18272329 (external link)
I don't see them releasing a Rebel with these stats and letting it eat into 80D's territory for long. But then, stranger things have happened *cough* Mac Pro *cough*

I agree, but will they even release it as a Rebel?

It seems it has a Rebel size, chassis, build, weight and weather proofing but being marketed as an xxD

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Feb 13, 2017 13:29 |  #4

Most likely a typo, and this is really the EOS 770D, which would match the rebel nomenclature. Highly unlikely they would have a rebel using an xxD notation.


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Feb 13, 2017 13:32 |  #5

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18272372 (external link)
Most likely a typo, and this is really the EOS 770D, which would match the rebel nomenclature. Highly unlikely they would have a rebel using an xxD notation.


Seems not.

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Feb 13, 2017 13:58 |  #6

Those are most likely photoshopped, like every other "leaked" rumor in the past. Nothing actually gets leaked from Canon sources until perhaps a few days before the announcement where certain online sites release product pages before the announcement date. I have been through so many Canon releases and all the drama months and weeks before, and now just wait until the source comes from Canon.

This latest leak comes from digi-came, and what better way to drive traffic than to put out some speculation. :)

Look, they will also have a 87D. :) Let's just wait to see what happens. It is a very odd designation for a Rebel, and is VERY confusing if they actually did this. If they are releasing something just under the 80D that isn't a rebel branded body, then perhaps the numbering makes sense, but why do that? Is there enough there to differentiate a 77D from an 80D?

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Feb 13, 2017 14:32 |  #7

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18272401 (external link)
Those are most likely photoshopped, like every other "leaked" rumor in the past. Nothing actually gets leaked from Canon sources until perhaps a few days before the announcement where certain online sites release product pages before the announcement date. I have been through so many Canon releases and all the drama months and weeks before, and now just wait until the source comes from Canon.

This latest leak comes from digi-came, and what better way to drive traffic than to put out some speculation. :)

Look, they will also have a 87D. :) Let's just wait to see what happens. It is a very odd designation for a Rebel, and is VERY confusing if they actually did this. If they are releasing something just under the 80D that isn't a rebel branded body, then perhaps the numbering makes sense, but why do that? Is there enough there to differentiate a 77D from an 80D?
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digicam-info is known for reliable leaks shortly before the actual announcements, unlike some other sites which mainly manufacture their own vapor. This looks very real to me.


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Feb 13, 2017 14:42 as a reply to howiewu's post |  #8

Again if so, it will be very confusing... 70D, 80D, 77D, 7DI, 7DII, etc. Perhaps that is Canon's new marketing strategy, general mass confusion on which model... :D


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Feb 13, 2017 14:44 |  #9

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18272447 (external link)
Again if so, it will be very confusing... 70D, 80D, 77D, 7DI, 7DII, etc. Perhaps that is Canon's new marketing strategy, general mass confusion on which model... :D

And what comes after 90D? 100D? oh wait a minute, errm!

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Feb 13, 2017 14:46 as a reply to logiclee's post |  #10

Yes, we had those same discussions when the SL1 was introduced, but I think we were back on the 60D at that point. Canon has had a long time to re-engineer model numbers. The SL1 is 4 years old now at this point. They have put themselves into a bind, with numbering in the xxxxD, xxxD, xxD, and xD to differentiate lines. Ditto on the 5D, 6D, and 7D. They could have an 8D and 9D, but then what with the 10D? :D

Going backward from the 80D to a 77D seems like an odd move, and yet again, doesn't leave alot of room for future model numbers. I can't wait for the press release where they try to paint this picture further splitting up lines into many paths, as they did with the 50D successors, the 60D vs the 7D.


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Feb 13, 2017 15:04 |  #11

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18272453 (external link)
Yes, we had those same discussions when the SL1 was introduced, but I think we were back on the 60D at that point. Canon has had a long time to re-engineer model numbers. The SL1 is 4 years old now at this point. They have put themselves into a bind, with numbering in the xxxxD, xxxD, xxD, and xD to differentiate lines. Ditto on the 5D, 6D, and 7D. They could have an 8D and 9D, but then what with the 10D? :D

Going backward from the 80D to a 77D seems like an odd move, and yet again, doesn't leave alot of room for future model numbers. I can't wait for the press release where they try to paint this picture further splitting up lines into many paths, as they did with the 50D successors, the 60D vs the 7D.

Canon should just scrap the "regular" Rebel line altogether (the xxxD line), and keep the Rebel SL line. Did you see the news from Nikon today? The onslaught from smartphones is relentless. They really need to abandon all compacts and simplify their interchangeable product lines just to survive.


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Feb 14, 2017 01:28 as a reply to howiewu's post |  #12

I used to have a G9 and then G11 and also have an SX.
But for the times I don't have an SLR available my S7 Edge smartphone is good enough for 99% of what I need.
So the G9 and G11 have been sold and although I have the SX I hardly ever use it. Can't see me buying another compact.

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Feb 14, 2017 13:25 as a reply to logiclee's post |  #13

Ah I got mixed up while reading CanonRumors and their coverage of both the T7i and 77D. But even then, the specs between those two seem so close, I'm not sure why they'd release both. Of course this is just speculation at this point, but still.


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Feb 14, 2017 22:25 as a reply to TeamSpeed's post |  #14

Still think it's photoshoped?


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Feb 14, 2017 22:38 |  #15

With any rumor, until the official announcement from Canon, nothing is concrete and all is suspect... ;) Again, 10+ years of announcements, including some crazy hide and seek announcements of 1D series by Canon leads one to this conclusion. All through the years, all kinds of crazy things have happened with these releases.

The 77D is still one odd duck, and I don't follow. It is a step above the Rebel, which is what the 60D+ was coined when Canon split the xxD line at the 50D into the 60D and 7D. It is a very, very strange model number. There literally isn't any room for a model between the Rebels and the xxD line at this point. The Rebels have been endowed with some very high end specs over the last few releases, leaving a small gap between the Rebel and 70D/80D. People cannot accept the T7s as a model?

And now we have what, like the 6th or 7th version of the 18-55 lens?

I suspect that this is a way to raise prices on the existing lines. This feels like the 3 big Mac options at Mcd's, confuse the consumer with differently sized items, then raise the prices.

I would have loved to have seen a replacement to the SL1 instead personally.... that would have been great.


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