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Is it impossible to shoot this kind of bottle 100% in camera?

 
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Apr 22, 2017 10:44 as a reply to post 18297060 |  #16

Well your boss doesn't know anything about photography then. Most product photography studios would remove anything on the backside of the bottle they don't want in the shot. Taking off stickers, removing paint, you name it. If your boss wants it all shot in camera and to magically have it gone then he/she has unrealistic expectations.



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Apr 23, 2017 10:08 as a reply to Holster's post |  #17

To be fair tho, the boss isn't a photographer, so one cannot expect him to know everything that has been discussed here.


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Jul 30, 2017 00:38 as a reply to BJWOK's post |  #18

True, but one can expect him to listen to someone who does know what they are talking about.


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Jul 30, 2017 23:31 |  #19

First, if you cannot alter the bottle, then the answer is that there will be some bottles with a back label that will be visible in photos. Second, since 100% accuracy is important to the photos, then altering them should not even be a concern. Your photos show the bottles exactly as they are.




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Jul 31, 2017 22:39 as a reply to Scott Spellman's post |  #20

Scott, you nailed it! :) I agree totally with you!


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Aug 02, 2017 11:54 as a reply to post 18297991 |  #21

OP already said that the label needs to stay intact.


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Aug 02, 2017 18:43 as a reply to Aressem's post |  #22

That's correct Aressem, and if the label needs to stay intact there is no way to do this, hence Scott nailed it.


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Aug 02, 2017 19:28 |  #23

I don't shoot this kind of thing, and I apologize, it is going to show in my example, but I suspect you might be able to run strobes on the sides of the bottle, then a light in the back, and then play with exposure until you get it.

Here is my very poor example. But I am only running 2 AD200 on the sides, one diffused toward the side of the bottle, the other more to light up my silver reflector (it would be better if I had a white one).

Anyways, I wonder if this can help to drive a different direction in how you shoot these? At a minimum, it might help reduce the photoshopping that is needed? I just wanted to show how light running through the bottle might help. Perhaps a plexiglass base with a flash under it even?

Your label is more pronounced due to the skinnier bottle though, where my example has more volume of liquid front to back. Anyways, I tried. :)

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Aug 03, 2017 01:23 |  #24

Thanks for the thoughts TeamSpeed. The thing I can see with your example is that you've now altered the appearance of the liquid. Part of the the sale for these bottles is that they present "as is" - i.e. the colour of the contents needs to be a true representation :) But cheers for the try!


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Aug 03, 2017 03:41 |  #25

I am afraid then that you have to become proficiently at photoshop's clone tool. If you want true representation without adding light to the liquid, while with a white background, then you will have the sticker. Cloning won't take too long though really. I am not sure how I changed the color, it is really that color when in the open room with midday light, but it was an interesting attempt. I had fun anyways. :)

The only thing I don't like with this is the flash on the left side of the bottle, and I do have barndoors for the flash, I should have tried them to make more of a directed light into the bottle and less on the label.


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Aug 03, 2017 18:58 |  #26

Trouble is I'm not paid enough to spend all that time in post with the clone tool :(

My client is very particular, if you take a look at the site where the bottle photos end up you'll see he has a very particular look and consistency he is after: https://www.mybottlesh​op.com.au (external link)


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Aug 03, 2017 19:29 as a reply to BJWOK's post |  #27

How many bottles have these labels on them that you have to remove? It will take about 5-10 minutes a bottle to clone it out.

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Aug 04, 2017 20:28 |  #28

It's literally only the one bottle.


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Aug 04, 2017 21:18 as a reply to BJWOK's post |  #29

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Aug 05, 2017 18:11 as a reply to TeamSpeed's post |  #30

Whats your email?


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