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7d mkii vs 5dsr cropped for main Wildlife body.

 
CisherPhotography
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Mar 11, 2017 08:31 |  #1

Hi guys,

To start this forum is awesome. Just saying.

As per my post topic. I found a blog
( http://www.birdsasart-blog.com ...lations-i-finally-get-it/ (external link) ) and it made the 5dsr out to be a steller performer. But what if say a subject was shot from the same distance and the 5dsr was cropped to the 1.6 frame of the 7d mkii. Would it still hold its own?

I think a plus should be given to the 7d mkii's autofocus capabilities.

So which is the choice for someone already owning a FF (5d3) in terms of IQ/resolution. Im looking to have a better suited wildlife camera body.




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Mar 11, 2017 09:43 |  #2

Yes, many people have done this. The croppability makes it roughly equivalent in terms of "reach." However, it has considerably fewer fps, so the 5dsr may not be as good for BIF.
But if you have the lenses to fill the frame, the 5dsr produces stunning images.


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Mar 11, 2017 10:02 |  #3

CisherPhotography wrote in post #18298018 (external link)
Hi guys,

To start this forum is awesome. Just saying.

As per my post topic. I found a blog
( http://www.birdsasart-blog.com ...lations-i-finally-get-it/ (external link) ) and it made the 5dsr out to be a steller performer. But what if say a subject was shot from the same distance and the 5dsr was cropped to the 1.6 frame of the 7d mkii. Would it still hold its own?

I think a plus should be given to the 7d mkii's autofocus capabilities.

So which is the choice for someone already owning a FF (5d3) in terms of IQ/resolution. Im looking to have a better suited wildlife camera body.

The 5D3 is already a fully capable wildlife camera. You're overthinking it a lot.

Put that money into incredible glass instead. The Sigma 150-600 that you're using is good, but a big white is a whole other level. You'd benefit more from better, faster glass, than a very minor camera upgrade (very, very minor).

Are you already handling a 300 F2.8L II, 400 F2.8L II or 500 F2.8L II or 200-400 F4L? Or Sigma equivalent? If not, then worry more about this. You already have a very capable body.

To your question, yes, the 5DSR will have the same pixel density as a 7D2 and basically has the same field of view once cropped to match, but the 5DSR has a wider field of view for composition and tracking purposes (which is nicer in my opinion). I'd take the 5DSR over the 7D2 for general wildlife. I would take the 7D2 or a 1DX if you needed RAW FPS for something moving incredibly fast to capture specific stances, poses, wing positions, etc. If it's a bunch of stationary or big lumbering flying birds, a slower FPS camera is totally capable with room to spare. But is splitting hairs in terms of benefits, compared to comparing a F6.3 entry zoom to a top shelf F4 or F2.8 super telephoto. I'd take the best lens possible and a junk camera any day over worrying about which top shelf camera to use with entry glass.

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Mar 11, 2017 11:57 |  #4

The 7DII has 244.3 pixels/millimeter (3648pixels/15mm) while the 5DS has 241.3 pixels/millimeter (5792 pixels/24mm).
IOW it matters very little from the standpoint of effective detail resolution (pixels on target) whether you mount a 400mm FL on either body, and crop the 5DS image from 24mm height down to 15mm height...the outcome is virtually the same in terms of the mythical 'reach'


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Mar 11, 2017 22:12 |  #5

After using both, in my opinion, the 5DSR has marginal benefits in sharpness and contrast. The 7D Mark II gives you faster FPS and a bigger buffer. The 5DSR is my favorite camera, however the 7D II is great as well. Just like everyone said above I would focus on glass if you already have a 5D III.

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