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Apr 13, 2017 00:09 |  #1

Has anybody seen this? Thoughts. Maybe I'm naive, but this seems like quite a stretch. Is this an unfair stereotype or pretty much the norm in this genre of photography?

https://petapixel.com …l-harassment-photography/ (external link)




  
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Apr 13, 2017 08:24 |  #2

texkam wrote in post #18326625 (external link)
Has anybody seen this? Thoughts. Maybe I'm naive, but this seems like quite a stretch. Is this an unfair stereotype or pretty much the norm in this genre of photography?

https://petapixel.com …l-harassment-photography/ (external link)

I saw that a couple of days ago. This isn't sexual harassment so much in photography as it is sexual harassment in the fashion industry. Budoir photographers serving private clients, for instance, can't get away with that stuff--yet this video (presuming an accurate portrayal) implicates the entire advertising staff.

But we already know the fashion industry is rife with a number of other social sins against models all of its own, so this is just another of them.




  
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Apr 13, 2017 08:37 |  #3

The PC Police are everywhere. I'd agree that it seems like a stretch with a whole gallery of people on the set. We don't know/see what kind of image he's trying to evoke, so I might give him a pass on the language in that case. And when he says that he's got it, they're done.
OTOH, if he ever wants to work with her in the future, he might have let her down a little easier instead of just walking off the set?

As for "The Coworker", it's not the same thing, & I can see elements of harassment there. He should keep his hands to himself. Especially as the dufus doesn't seem aware that she has a knife in her hand & the harassment might rapidly go in the other direction? Which might be fun to watch! ; D


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Apr 13, 2017 11:20 |  #4

Not the first documentary about the "bad" parts of the fashion industry and certainly won't be the last. Personally I don't believe that it's any worse than it's ever been.

Given the world we live in today the term harassment is much broader than it used to be. Right, wrong or otherwise it is what it is.

I do think that it is sad that photographers get singled out the most, when there are plenty of people involved in the industry that create situations that would lead to such claims.

You never see the documentaries about the thousands of people each year who get off a bus in the fashion cities who do anything it takes to break into the industry. There is some cause and effect from these people.

I'm not saying it's right, but it's never been a secret, yet still there are thousands who want to get into the industry and then seem surprised when they find out it isn't all peaches and cream.


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Apr 17, 2017 04:36 |  #5

This sort of behavior, in front of other people on set is more common than you might think.
It certainly happens, I have spoken with models who have experienced worse treatment from a photographer.

The whole point of the campaign is to highlight the fact that it is a real problem.


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Jun 08, 2017 14:02 |  #6

Political correctness? Irrelevant!

In my opinion, this issue is not about politics. Whatever our political outlooks may be we are morally obligated to treat models with dignity and respect. That, of course, assumes the possession of a moral compass. To the extent we ask our models to bare their bodies or feelings the need for respectful treatment becomes greater.

The whole rag trade has traditionally been a harsh one, especially for women, and even worse for the fabricators than the mannequins. As Moppie suggests, the campaign works to show the difference between what is appropriate and what really happens.


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Aug 02, 2017 00:42 |  #7

Fashion photography is this way in general? This is despicable!


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Aug 02, 2017 00:45 |  #8

I'm having a hard time accepting that this is the norm. That's why I asked.




  
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Nov 06, 2017 23:37 |  #9

Article is en fran├žais:

http://www.journaldemo​ntreal.com …raphe-de-mode-montrealais (external link)

This is a fairly well known guy here.


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Nov 10, 2017 00:52 |  #10

RandallB wrote in post #18490485 (external link)
Article is en fran├žais:

http://www.journaldemo​ntreal.com …raphe-de-mode-montrealais (external link)

This is a fairly well known guy here.

and an English language article about him/the journal article https://petapixel.com …ations-sexual-misconduct/ (external link)


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Nov 15, 2017 17:31 |  #11

Dan Marchant wrote in post #18493165 (external link)
and an English language article about him/the journal article https://petapixel.com …ations-sexual-misconduct/ (external link)

As long as the world turns and the sun hasn't blown up, there will be guys who think with their small head versus the larger one.

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