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Wider than 24mm for Italy?

 
Scrumhalf
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Apr 23, 2017 20:15 |  #1

We are going to be in Italy in June. I have a 24-70 and a Rok 14/2.8 to go with my 6D. Should I be looking at picking up a wider zoom, perhaps a 16-35 F4? I don't know if 24mm is wide enough.

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Apr 23, 2017 20:23 |  #2

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18336320 (external link)
We are going to be in Italy in June. I have a 24-70 and a Rok 14/2.8 to go with my 6D. Should I be looking at picking up a wider zoom, perhaps a 16-35 F4? I don't know if 24mm is wide enough.

Thanks!

Are you not bringing the 14mm?

Seems like it would do the trick with some cropping ... unless you hope to come away with a huge print.

That said, if buying a lens won't take away from fun being had while traveling, I've found a new appreciation for my tokina 16-28 over the past few weeks. I've always liked it a lot but have easily tripled the photos I have taken with it lately.

2.8 has come in handy, with adding light if a tripod is not an easy option, but also wit trying to add some kind of natural OOF areas with such a wide lens. You just have to get REAL close to the in focus subject to force background objects OOF.


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Apr 23, 2017 20:31 |  #3

24-70 should work just fine.


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Apr 23, 2017 21:07 |  #4

Thanks!

I'll take the 14/2.8 as well probably.

I was wondering if I should use this trip as an excuse to get the 11-24! :D


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Apr 23, 2017 22:11 |  #5

I took my 24-70 and 16-35. I ended up using my 16-35 a lot more, mostly because I took a ton of exterior and ceiling shots. I think I would have regretted not taking it. We plan on going back at the end of the year, I'll definitely be taking the 16-35. I'm pondering even leaving my 24-70 at home this time.


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Apr 24, 2017 01:18 |  #6

Yeah, I've been thinking about the 16-35 F4 as well. That's one superb lens based on all the images I have seen here, as well as the reviews, and the cost is pretty reasonable at under $900 for a refurb. The 11-24 is my dream lens, but the cost is daunting. I might rent one for the trip - gotta think about it.


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Apr 24, 2017 07:28 |  #7

You can probably buy a used or refurb lens and sell it for cheaper than renting for a long vacation.

11-24 is drool worthy, but I'm not sure I'd want to tote that all over the place while on vacation and constantly wondering if my gear is safe.


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Apr 24, 2017 16:48 |  #8

My widest when I went to Italy was 24mm, and I was constantly wishing for more. So, I eventually purchased the 16-35 for just such an occasion, if it were to arise again.


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Apr 24, 2017 20:06 |  #9

MatthewK wrote in post #18337391 (external link)
My widest when I went to Italy was 24mm, and I was constantly wishing for more. So, I eventually purchased the 16-35 for just such an occasion, if it were to arise again.

Yup.

I cannot imagine being constrained to 24 in such a situation.

It really makes no sense.

Likewise I would want more than 70 on the long end. 20 and 100 primes at the minimum if you expect you can take a minute to change lenses.


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Apr 24, 2017 20:41 |  #10

Rats, the 16-35 F4s are sold out on the refurb site. :(

I'll be taking my 24-70 II and my 70-200 F4 to keep weight down. I'll leave the F2.8 at home, I think. Probably will just take my Rok 14/2.8 if I can't find a UWA zoom on the refurb/used market by then.


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Apr 27, 2017 19:10 |  #11

I went to central Europe last summer and truly regretted not having anything wider than my 24-70. The deficiency was most glaring inside or in front of the many beautiful old cathedrals, castles, and other buildings. Two weeks ago, I was watching the Canon refurb page for a couple of days thinking of pulling the trigger on the 16-35 F4, but snoozed and lost.


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Apr 29, 2017 05:13 |  #12

Scrumhalf wrote in post #18336320 (external link)
We are going to be in Italy in June. I have a 24-70 and a Rok 14/2.8 to go with my 6D. Should I be looking at picking up a wider zoom, perhaps a 16-35 F4? I don't know if 24mm is wide enough.

Thanks!

A trip to Rome two years ago was the excuse I needed to upgrade my 17-40 f/4 L to the new 16-35 f/4 L IS. Being able to Hand Hold at 1/10 with sharp results would not be possible without IS. Plus tripods are prohibited in the Basilica's. Well worth the investment.


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Apr 29, 2017 14:15 |  #13

Thanks guys!

I picked up a 16-35 F4 from fellow POTN'er BJ_Nguyen! Hope it arrives soon!

So my Italy kit will be a 6D with the 16-35/4, the 24-70/2.8 II and the 70-200 F4 IS. I'm debating whether to throw in the 12/2.8 Rok fisheye or not, just for a different look. I suspect that since I have the 16-35, the Rok 14/2.8 isn't worth taking.


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May 09, 2017 21:45 |  #14

Just the thread I was looking for.

I just picked up a 17-40 F4 L and was thinking it would probably be plenty wide.

Trying to travel light as it's my first time in the UK. Thinking the 17-40 F4 L and 28-135 is all I'm taking. Don't really see the need for up to 300mm, but still not sure. Body is 5DM2


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Jun 10, 2017 15:43 |  #15

Two weeks to go for the Italy trip, and 45 hasn't banned cameras on European direct flights yet! So far, so good, keeping my fingers crossed!

My kit's going to be a 6D with a Rok 12/2.8 fisheye, 16-35/F4, 24-70 II and 70-200/F4 IS. Will take a tripod along for night shots.

Planning to spend 2 days in Florence and a week divided between Rome and Venice. No time for Cinque Terre, Amalfi coast, Tuscany, etc on this trip! But there is always a next time!


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