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if you bought a drone right now, would you register it?

 
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Jul 13, 2017 21:31 |  #1

question is pretty much in the title...i'm looking at i think either the spark, or mavic...if i were to buy it i'm not sure if i should register it or not...not sure if there are any pros or cons for or against, so just wondering other's thoughts on the subject


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Jul 14, 2017 00:06 |  #2

It depends on your local laws. In the US the courts have just overturned the FAAs requirement for mandatory registration so it is no longer necessary.

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Jul 14, 2017 00:17 |  #3

Dan Marchant wrote in post #18401637 (external link)
It depends on your local laws. In the US the courts have just overturned the FAAs requirement for mandatory registration so it is no longer necessary.

https://petapixel.com ...tion-refund-deletion-faa/ (external link)

yeah, that's the main reason i'm wondering...i know it's no longer necessary, but i think they still recommend it for some reason...right now i don't see a reason to...i can save my $5 for a beer


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Jul 14, 2017 05:24 |  #4

DreDaze wrote in post #18401527 (external link)
...not sure if there are any pros or cons for or against

Same situation for motor vehicles really, the reason for requiring registering is to [try] enforce compliance to the regulations.
In the same fashion, the people who don't comply with regulation, are usually the very people who don't care or bother with the registration requirement.

Thankfully there is no requirement in New Zealand to register drones [yet...]


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Jul 14, 2017 06:29 |  #5

The reason the FAA was ruled against is because the FAA is only allowed to register aircraft and not people. The way they did the registration is against the rules laid out for the FAA. I think we will see continual change so I would wait it out.


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Jul 14, 2017 06:43 |  #6

joeseph wrote in post #18401748 (external link)
Same situation for motor vehicles really, the reason for requiring registering is to [try] enforce compliance to the regulations.
In the same fashion, the people who don't comply with regulation, are usually the very people who don't care or bother with the registration requirement.

this.

with the ignorance and paranoia of certain demographics (including the occasional law enforcement official) in the US lately, I would make sure to have proper paperwork on hand. It might not completely diffuse the situation but it would at least be a start.


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Jul 14, 2017 15:40 |  #7

joeseph wrote in post #18401748 (external link)
Same situation for motor vehicles really, the reason for requiring registering is to [try] enforce compliance to the regulations.
In the same fashion, the people who don't comply with regulation, are usually the very people who don't care or bother with the registration requirement.

Thankfully there is no requirement in New Zealand to register drones [yet...]

there's no requirement here right now either...but it seems to be in limbo...they obviously want to do something, but their first idea got thrown out, so now they are offering refunds for those that registered

right now i don't really see any benefit, or need to register it if i buy one


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Jul 14, 2017 15:43 |  #8

If its not legally required, then heck no.

Privacy is nearly priceless these days. I would pay to not be on some list out there for some future scheme to be modeled off.

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Jul 15, 2017 19:13 |  #9

MalVeauX wrote in post #18402147 (external link)
If its not legally required, then heck no.

Privacy is nearly priceless these days. I would pay to not be on some list out there for some future scheme to be modeled off.

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Be careful with how tightly you cling to a vague concept of privacy: The kinds of things done by those looking to avoid notice are typically the same kind of things that attract notice and suspicion. :P


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Jul 17, 2017 09:35 |  #10

Note that the rules are different for a hobbyist flying just for fun, vs someone using the drone to make money.

If you're adding aerial photos to your wedding or real-estate packages, selling aerial photos, or using the drone for any other commercial venture, I strongly encourage you to do more research before choosing whether to register. The laws have been changing very rapidly over the past couple of years, almost as rapidly as the technology.

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Jul 25, 2017 15:14 |  #11

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I have read many posts on this topic, here on POTN. . Many people have, for the past several months, spoken about the dire necessity of doing everything "by the book" and studying all of the related laws to make sure that one is in full compliance when using a drone. . For me, this makes little sense.

I think that the area in which one uses the drone may have something to do with it.

I get the feeling, when reading posts on the topic, that some of you are trying to use drones in areas where there are roads, houses, parks, power lines, airports, etc. . I guess if you want to use a drone in an area where there is a human population, then it may makes sense to abide by all of the complex rules.

However, I always associated drones with wilderness areas......after all, I can't understand why anyone would want their arial videos and stills cluttered up with a bunch of man-made objects.

Below is an area near my place, which is representative of the region in which I live. . There are vast expanses of forests and mountains with nary a building or a paved road or an airport for miles and miles and miles. . And these areas are barely ever patrolled by any kind of authorities - I have spent entire weekends in these areas and never seen or heard another human or another vehicle.

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For those who only want to use drones in these types of areas, I don't see the sense in registration, filing flight plans and schedules, etc. . Just go fly the thing, because there are no humans anywhere who will ever know you or your drone were even there. . And if there did happen to be somebody there, they wouldn't care a whit that you are flying a drone, anyway.

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Jul 26, 2017 12:32 |  #12

Drones should be registered and forced to have id beacons. The dumb ones fly the drones above runway approaches. One person put his drone over a medivac chopper preventing it taking off with a 12 year old in serious condition. A few will ruin it for everyone.




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Jul 26, 2017 14:07 |  #13

filmuser wrote in post #18411810 (external link)
Drones should be registered and forced to have id beacons. The dumb ones fly the drones above runway approaches. One person put his drone over a medivac chopper preventing it taking off with a 12 year old in serious condition. A few will ruin it for everyone.

How would registering stop people from doing stupid things?


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Jul 26, 2017 14:30 |  #14

filmuser wrote in post #18411810 (external link)
Drones should be registered and forced to have id beacons. The dumb ones fly the drones above runway approaches. One person put his drone over a medivac chopper preventing it taking off with a 12 year old in serious condition. A few will ruin it for everyone.

It is unfortunate about how -- all TOO OFTEN -- the CA fire fighters who fight wildfires have to GROUND the air support that drops fire retardants and water because of the fools flying a drone!
Drones should at least have radar transponders so that their presence in the sky and altitude are visible on the radar of nearby aircraft or ground based monitoring stations, rather than dependent upon visual sighting to alert of their presence.


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Jul 26, 2017 17:59 as a reply to Wilt's post |  #15

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That's just another example of the problems with flying these things in areas where there are human populations.....which is just stupid.

Folks should only fly them in areas where it is appropriate to do so - where there isn't anything at all for them to interfere with.

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