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5D Mk III or 6D

 
lewisc
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Jul 14, 2017 03:07 |  #1

I'm hoping for a bit of advice on these two cameras. I'm travelling through the USA at the end of the year and need a camera. I know these topics come up alot but I'm really stumped at the moment, especially with the soon release of the 6D Mk II.

3 Years ago, I bought a 6D for travel, combined it with prime lenses and loved it. At the time, the 5D was out of the budget. I (foolishly) sold the 6D and my lenses last year after moving to a new city and not using my camera for about a year. I know what lenses I'll need but it leads me to a new question:

Now that the 5D Mk III secondhand price has come down since 3 years ago, and a few camera models have been released since, is it worth spending a bit of extra money to get it over a used 6D?

The only thing that bothered me about the 6D was the focus speed. That really only mattered when I was shooting birds and that will be minimal these days. I really wanted the 5D a few years ago but couldn't stretch the money that far.


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Drums
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Jul 14, 2017 04:52 |  #2

Look at it this way, if you want the 5D3 and can afford it, if you buy the 6d it will always never be quite the same in other words you may suffer buyers remorse. Both cameras are still excellent even with the newer models available. The 5d offers dual card slots and a better AF array than the 6D but the 6D has IQ as good as the Mk3.
The 6D will always be cheaper, there is a good reason for that, but at the end of the day are the improvements in the 5 series worth the cost over the 6 series. Personally I'm wondering is it worth replacing a 5d3 with a 6D mk 2.




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jeffryscott
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Jul 14, 2017 08:53 |  #3

It is indeed quite a dilemma. Either way is a solid choice. I just went through the same decision process and ended up with one of each :) I'm still waiting on the 5, but the 6 as you well know is a lovely camera with great IQ. (Upgraded from a pair of 5d2's) I was planning on a second 6, but then a decent deal showed up for the 5. That lingering desire for the 5 is important not to overlook - it is more robust, has the AF that doesn't leave you wanting for more and the dual card slots, just in case.

But I if you aren't in a rush, why not wait for the 6d II? Similar price to a used 5dIII, but with warranty. It substantially improves on AF over the original and it looks like a solid upgrade, if you don't want 4K video. Or for travel, why not consider mirrorless? Lots of weight and size reduction. I've used both Fuji and Olympus and both are great, depending on ones needs.

Used prices for both the 5 and 6 are coming down, so maybe just watch for deals while you are waiting, maybe something will pop up that helps you decide :) Good luck.


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lewisc
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Jul 14, 2017 09:25 |  #4

The trip is in December so a few months yet. It will be good to get a camera back in hand sooner rather than later to touch up some rusty skills. I havent looked at other brands. I lean towards Canon because of the practice I've put in. Time to do some reading on that.

I know I'd be extremely happy with the 6DII. The price for a new one is looking to be about $2700 here in Aus. A second hand 5DIII is ranging from $1400-$2200.

It's all coming down to the price. I've done pretty well with my camera gear by buying second hand (except for the first 7D) and breaking even or at most losing about $100 for an L lens. It could be time to bite the bullet and go for the new 6DII.


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Post has been edited 5 months ago by Left Handed Brisket.
Jul 14, 2017 10:06 as a reply to lewisc's post |  #5

main differences between 5DII and 6DII are

1) $$$
2) tilt screen
3) 6DII better image quality which is assumed but remains to be seen
4) DPAF dual pixel auto focus


minor differences are

1) 1/8000 SS
2) slightly faster sync speed on 5DIII


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jeffryscott
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Jul 14, 2017 11:17 |  #6

lewisc wrote in post #18401864 (external link)
The trip is in December so a few months yet. It will be good to get a camera back in hand sooner rather than later to touch up some rusty skills. I havent looked at other brands. I lean towards Canon because of the practice I've put in. Time to do some reading on that.

I know I'd be extremely happy with the 6DII. The price for a new one is looking to be about $2700 here in Aus. A second hand 5DIII is ranging from $1400-$2200.

It's all coming down to the price. I've done pretty well with my camera gear by buying second hand (except for the first 7D) and breaking even or at most losing about $100 for an L lens. It could be time to bite the bullet and go for the new 6DII.

You likely won't go wrong with either, but you can get the 5dMkIII now :) Since the 6dMkII is a new model, there is always the small chance of problems (Nikon has had a series of SNAFU's, but Canon is not immune either (1dMkIII). Going with a known entity with some time to test it out may be something to consider.


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Silver-Halide
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Jul 14, 2017 11:19 |  #7

I'm unclear whether you're deliberating between the 6d or the 6dII. I've owned the 5dIII and the 6d. While the 5dIII is nicer overall, I usually kept it home when I was out shooting photos for me and took the 6d. The 5dIII is for weddings or other events where you dual card slots are important for instant backup. I've never seen a difference in image quality one way or the other. I'd go 6D or 6DII all the way until and unless you already own a really nice tripod and good assortment of "L" lenses.


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Aug 07, 2017 11:11 |  #8

I prefer the 6D over the 5D 3 (unless you need 2 card slots), considering cost - and 6D handles low light better. I also wasn't impressed with the 6D 2 specs compared to the 6D.

However, I love the 5D 4's specs.


(2) Canon 6D || Zeiss Sonnar 135mm f/2 || Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4 || Sigma 85mm f/1.4 || Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 || Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art || Canon 24mm f/2.8 || Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 || (2) Eg-S Focusing Screen
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Aug 07, 2017 12:02 |  #9

I shoot with a 6D. My daughter shoots with a 5D MKIII. We've both used each other's cameras from time to time.

When I bought my 6D I was also considering the MKIII. Price wasn't that much of an issue for me, but image quality was. Every example I'd seen (many times not knowing which camera took which image) told me that the 6D was the better choice.

And, at the end of the day, the one single thing that matters more than anything else is image quality.

Decision made...


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AlanU
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Aug 07, 2017 13:15 |  #10

The 5dmk3 is still a very impressive body for a stills photographer. As long as your careful in exposure I think the dynamic range is "good". We can talk about specs all day long but the 5d3 AF, high iso performance, 1/8000, professional dual cards for memory...... can do almost what a 5dmk4 can do but substantially less to buy $$$$.

6d is 1/4000 max shutter, single cards, ok autofocus but not ideal for action.

CDN I cannot justify spending $5000 bucks for a 5dmk4. Infact I'm just considering on buying another 5d3 for my application. For casual photos I still cannot sell my 80D for a $3024 (taxes in) 6dmk2 for my fun family video rig. I know the 6d2 can produce nice stills even with the "not so dynamic range" compared to the 5dmk4. However my Fuji X-t2 shoots amazing stills and 4k video clips.

1/4000 with no electronic shutter is not a deal breaker but I think many professionals appreciate more headroom for shutter speeds.

If I was strictly considering on spending premium dollar on a fresh camera release for casual purposes the 6d2 is probably a fantastic setup to use. If your serious about stills and want professional memory backup in the canon world you'll need to setup to a 5d3 or 5d4........or go the 1d series bodies.

If we were talking about the 5dmk2 era people appreciated the CF cards for robust reliability with one memory slot. Now that the tech is changing and dual cards exist in the world.......5d3 is Canon's first kick at the 5d series in having dual slots.


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

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Aug 07, 2017 16:12 |  #11

AlanU wrote in post #18421391 (external link)
I cannot justify spending $5000 bucks for a 5dmk4.

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(2) Canon 6D || Zeiss Sonnar 135mm f/2 || Zeiss Otus 85mm f/1.4 || Sigma 85mm f/1.4 || Helios 44-2 58mm f/2 || Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art || Canon 24mm f/2.8 || Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 || (2) Eg-S Focusing Screen
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AlanU
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Aug 07, 2017 20:10 |  #12

$4179 CDN = 12% sales tax = $4680 CDN Dollars


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
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hait0622
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Aug 10, 2017 20:21 |  #13

Wow I am kind of in the same boat I have a 6d but thinking of upgrading to the 5d my iii or go to Sony 7rii




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Aug 11, 2017 11:16 |  #14

hait0622 wrote in post #18424477 (external link)
Wow I am kind of in the same boat I have a 6d but thinking of upgrading to the 5d my iii or go to Sony 7rii


So disappointed with the 6DMKII.. same boat here.. I thought a about the 5DMKIII because I wanted dual slots. I decided to move to the Fuji X-T2. About the same price as the 6D MKII- dual slots - 4 K video.. smaller form factor.. and a great kit lens.


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AlanU
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Aug 11, 2017 11:25 |  #15

scorpio_e wrote in post #18424876 (external link)
So disappointed with the 6DMKII.. same boat here.. I thought a about the 5DMKIII because I wanted dual slots. I decided to move to the Fuji X-T2. About the same price as the 6D MKII- dual slots - 4 K video.. smaller form factor.. and a great kit lens.

I'd love to buy a 6Dmk2 to replace my 80D. That would be like an upgraded full frame sensor with 80D specs ...minus degrade in max shutter speed.

6D and mk2 version is "smallish" for a mirrored body.

Please use an X-T2 on a low lit dance floor with flash and compare it to a 5dmk3/6D or even a Rebel series with a external speedlight using the red focus assist grid beam. You'll instantly realize there's a MASSIVE difference in AF performance. I have full confidence in Canon in that low light performance. I do not and will not use my Fuji X-T2 for that type of situation as I get substantially more hit rate with Canon in low light.

Casual photography the 6dmk2 is expensive right now but it's truly a very good camera "for what it is".


5Dmkiv |5Dmkiii | 80D | 24LmkII | 35mm f/2 IS | 85 mkII L | 100L | EF-S 10-22 | 16-35L mkII | 24-70 f/2.8L mkii| 70-200 f/2.8 ISL mkII| 600EX-RT x2 | 580 EX II x2 | Einstein's
Fuji X-T2 w/battery booster | 16mm f/1.4 | 56 f/1.2 | 10-24 f/4.0 | 55-200 | EF-X500

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