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Monitor on a laptop.

 
Colin ­ Glover
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Aug 01, 2017 12:15 |  #1

I can get a grade 1 (open box) 24" Acer monitor for £80.00. Seems a good price. I'm not overly impressed with my HP 17" laptop screen. Or a 27" screen (same size as my friends Imac screen but obviously not in quality) for £130, or new 27" Acer for £170.00. So a few questions. 1) will it be better than the laptop screen? My pet hate is finding the correct screen angle on the laptop, and a new monitor will be much more consistent when editing, as well as better for brush work. 2) How do I connect it. I don't know if my laptop has DVI out. It's 2 yrs old. I'm guessing that hdmi should do it. I'll need to check if it will output full HD over hdmi, though I'm guessing the very fact it has a port means it will. 3) Is there much difference in size between 24" & 27"? Will a 24" be much sharper than a 27"? I imagine better contrast and sharpness, or does it vary monitor to monitor.
Please don't suggest any other models more expensive, as they are out of budget. If you think they're hardly worth bothering with, let me know.
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Aug 01, 2017 12:27 |  #2

As for calibration of sorts, if I leave the settings at default and put my colour chart in front, and then tilt til correct will it get me in the ballpark, so I can then play around with settings to match it?


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Aug 01, 2017 12:42 |  #3

If you're looking for a monitor that has consistant color at any viewing angle, then you have to find one that's an IPS display. That will eat up your budget. The next feature in current monitors is going to resolutions higher then 1920x1080 (or 1920x1200). For those monitors, display port is the main interface. If your budget is £150, then you can get a 25" IPS HD monitor from Viewsonic. 22" is slightly cheaper (and having a smaller pixel pitch might look a bit sharper). These HD monitors have HDMI inputs:

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Aug 01, 2017 13:08 |  #4

Just an FYI, from Windows 7 on Microsoft builds into the OS a means to do a basic calibration. See the thread at http://photography-on-the.net ...showthread.php?p=18​185023.

Mac also has ways to do something similar, see http://www.macworld.co​m ...calibrateyourmonito​r.html (external link),




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Colin ­ Glover
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Aug 01, 2017 14:33 |  #5

http://www.laptopsdire​ct.co.uk ...-um.fs1ee.c05/version.a​sp (external link) is what I was looking at. Doesn't say IPS so ill assume it's not. What's your opinions?
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Aug 01, 2017 14:55 as a reply to Colin Glover's post |  #6

No, that monitor isn't IPS. I suggested that feature because your #1 requirement is wide viewing angles. It's one of the reasons photographers look for IPS instead of TFT LCD types. For an IPS monitor under £150, you're looking at HD resolutions at 25" or under.

Edit, see that it lists display type as VA. It appears it isn't as bad as a TFT display for viewing angles, but it doesn't have as good color reproduction as an IPS display.

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Aug 08, 2017 11:51 |  #7

Have the opportunity to buy a used Acer p235h with 23" TN panel for £32 with 2 yr warranty or in my Amazon basket is a 27" Asus with ips display new £133. What would you do? The Acer is DVI in, but I can buy an adapter HDMI to DVI for £10. Would there be a big difference in picture quality looking straight on and not at an angle?


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Aug 18, 2017 16:49 as a reply to Colin Glover's post |  #8

TN panels (cheap screens) will display 262K colours (showing a sudo 16.2million by switching colours quickly to fool your eye into thinking it's seeing more colours than it displays)

IPS and above show true colour 16.7million colours and is what you should be using to edit photographs..


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Aug 19, 2017 14:06 |  #9

So I took the plunge in an Acer k272hl Ebid. Bought from Argos official Ebay store. Open box, 12mth warranty. Ordered 3pm Wednesday 9th Aug, arrived 8.44am Thursday 10th. Great service, and only £116.00. Great image. Made me realise my laptop display was out. Everything has a slight blue cast. So what I thought was a pale blue background on Facebook (and Word for that matter) is actually Grey. Contrast is great at 100 million to one. And the 178° viewing angle is spot on. I'm impressed.


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