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AD200 with the double head adapter

 
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Aug 02, 2017 09:16 |  #1

Anyone had a chance to use two ad 200's with that new twin flash adapter that makes them into one unit. I am contemplating buying two of these and ganging them together when needed vs one AD 600




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Aug 02, 2017 09:28 |  #2

Not available yet, from what I can tell. Sites still say preorder.


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Aug 02, 2017 10:30 |  #3

Factory are sending me one which I should have Monday so looking forward to some comparative testing

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Aug 17, 2017 07:57 |  #4

dpe wrote in post #18417311 (external link)
Factory are sending me one which I should have Monday so looking forward to some comparative testing

Mike

Have you had a chance to play with it?


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Aug 17, 2017 12:04 |  #5

F2Bthere wrote in post #18429907 (external link)
Have you had a chance to play with it?

Yes and it does the job very well https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=WNP6CqO2l4E (external link)

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Aug 17, 2017 15:18 |  #6

dpe wrote in post #18430070 (external link)
Yes and it does the job very well https://www.youtube.co​m/edit?o=U&video_id=WN​P6CqO2l4E (external link)

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Glad to hear it!

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This is better:

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Aug 18, 2017 12:03 |  #7

200Ws capacitors can only produce 200Ws no matter if you place 360 bulb in it. :(

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Aug 18, 2017 14:02 |  #8

abbadon31 wrote in post #18430965 (external link)
200Ws capacitors can only produce 200Ws no matter if you place 360 bulb in it.

No such thing as a 200Ws capacitor

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Aug 18, 2017 14:11 |  #9

dpe wrote in post #18431046 (external link)
No such thing as a 200Ws capacitor

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Okay if you want to take it literal, but the 200 only allows for 200ws output.


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Aug 18, 2017 14:16 |  #10

abbadon31 wrote in post #18431057 (external link)
Okay if you want to take it literal, but the 200 only allows for 200ws output.

The 200Ws is a calculation of what the system can store and not what it outputs, one of the reasons that all 600W/s lights produce different levels of power




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Aug 18, 2017 14:57 |  #11

dpe wrote in post #18431062 (external link)
The 200Ws is a calculation of what the system can store and not what it outputs, one of the reasons that all 600W/s lights produce different levels of power

I'm having a hard time seeing how your insistence upon the nit-picky details have any relevance to what is being said. It does not seem to be a constructive contribution.

The basic point being made is correct.


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Aug 18, 2017 15:01 |  #12

abbadon31 wrote in post #18430965 (external link)
200Ws capacitors can only produce 200Ws no matter if you place 360 bulb in it. :(

I would assume the engineers at Flashhavoc would have known that before they advertised the release of the AD-B2 where it could support the 360 bulb in the middle.

My assumption is that they were going to run the power in parallel to that center socket to run more through it, but then ran into a snag of what would happen when somebody wanted to put a 200 bulb in the center socket. So once that snag was hit and they assessed that consumers would be blowing bulbs left and right, and possibly run the risk of fire, that concept was yanked and they simply ran the AD200 on the one side to the center socket instead.

With enough detection in place and the proper relays to route power accordingly, there could be a more versatile bulb head unit designed. It may require changes to the bulbs themselves in the future though, not sure. That all being said, I still don't want a long cord coming off the bulb bracket down to the floor where I have to attach and power up 4 units. I would have to mount that up on the stand somewhere, which is just more equipment and space. Just my opinion though, others might like to daisy chain up multiple AD200s to do some crazy things with lights!


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Aug 18, 2017 15:12 |  #13

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18431112 (external link)
I would assume the engineers at Flashhavoc would have known that before they advertised the release of the AD-B2 where it could support the 360 bulb in the middle.

My assumption is that they were going to run the power in parallel to that center socket to run more through it, but then ran into a snag of what would happen when somebody wanted to put a 200 bulb in the center socket. So once that snag was hit and they assessed that consumers would be blowing bulbs left and right, and possibly run the risk of fire, that concept was yanked and they simply ran the AD200 on the one side to the center socket instead.

That is an explanation I have read elsewhere and makes a good deal of sense, what was really needed was something like the H1200 bulb but in 400W version and then all the options would have been available. I have read elsewhere that the bulb in the AD360 is certainly capable of handling 400Ws

All that is stopping the AD360 bulb fitting is that the blank socket on the middle bulb position is about 0.5-1mm too small in diameter

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Aug 18, 2017 16:17 |  #14

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18431112 (external link)
I would assume the engineers at Flashhavoc would have known that before they advertised the release of the AD-B2 where it could support the 360 bulb in the middle.

My assumption is that they were going to run the power in parallel to that center socket to run more through it, but then ran into a snag of what would happen when somebody wanted to put a 200 bulb in the center socket. So once that snag was hit and they assessed that consumers would be blowing bulbs left and right, and possibly run the risk of fire, that concept was yanked and they simply ran the AD200 on the one side to the center socket instead.

With enough detection in place and the proper relays to route power accordingly, there could be a more versatile bulb head unit designed. It may require changes to the bulbs themselves in the future though, not sure. That all being said, I still don't want a long cord coming off the bulb bracket down to the floor where I have to attach and power up 4 units. I would have to mount that up on the stand somewhere, which is just more equipment and space. Just my opinion though, others might like to daisy chain up multiple AD200s to do some crazy things with lights!

Yeap they should have made a twin bulb like the 1200 bulb to fix that problem.


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Aug 18, 2017 16:20 |  #15

dpe wrote in post #18431062 (external link)
The 200Ws is a calculation of what the system can store and not what it outputs, one of the reasons that all 600W/s lights produce different levels of power


My point is your output power will never increase just becasue your put a higher output flash tube the units are rated at 200ws.

Its not like using a stand light bulb were they come in different outputs. (5w bulb only draws 5w of power and 100w light bulb draws 100w, but if the output power is only 5w the 100w light bulb can only draw 5w of power.)

By putting a 360 bulb in the center and only using one 200ws from one unit is no different then putting the 200 tube in the same place, your not going to get any more output because the unit are only rated at 200Ws. So this defeats the purpose of using the 360 flash tube.


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