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Google shows how easy it is for software to remove watermarks from photos

 
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Aug 20, 2017 09:10 |  #1

https://www.theverge.c​om ...-removal-photo-protection (external link)


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Aug 20, 2017 09:42 |  #2

Removing the watermark is a separate issue to © violations & you don't need to have registered the image: From Carolyn E Wright's blog: (external link) Section 1202 of the U.S. Copyright Act makes it illegal for someone to remove the watermark from your photo so that it can disguise the infringement when used. The fines start at $2500 and go to $25,000 in addition to attorneys' fees and any damages for the infringement.
The pertinent part of the statute is included the link.

I wonder how that will affect google.


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Aug 20, 2017 11:15 |  #3

The real difficulty, unfortunately, is that although there may be some 'protections' in the law, if a professional photographer provides watermarked previews to an UNAWARE client who removes the watermark and sends the image out for printing (or they print it themselves) it still deprives the photographer of any income to be derived, the law is broken but no action is taken against the unaware client (because the photographer himself is unware of the violation by the client!)
The linked illustration of the ease of watermark removal shows how easily what I describe here can occur. The 'protection' is nothing more than 'compensation' when the deed is discovered and proven, as it does nothing to DETER the unknowing. The photographer would need to deliver a notice of the consequence of removing watermarks from previews and printing any of the altered previews, for there to be any possible deterence.


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Aug 20, 2017 11:48 |  #4

Wilt wrote in post #18432424 (external link)
The real difficulty, unfortunately, is that although there may be some 'protections' in the law, if a professional photographer provides watermarked previews to an UNAWARE client who removes the watermark and sends the image out for printing (or they print it themselves) it still deprives the photographer of any income to be derived, the law is broken but no action is taken against the unaware client (because the photographer himself is unware of the violation by the client!)
The linked illustration of the ease of watermark removal shows how easily what I describe here can occur. The 'protection' is nothing more than 'compensation' when the deed is discovered and proven, as it does nothing to DETER the unknowing. The photographer would need to deliver a notice of the consequence of removing watermarks from previews and printing any of the altered previews, for there to be any possible deterence.


I think the best way to protect your image is to give a "proof" image that is extremely low resolution.




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Pigpen101 wrote in post #18432467 (external link)
I think the best way to protect your image is to give a "proof" image that is extremely low resolution.

Photographers have been known to provide very low resolution previews and STILL the client prints images for themselves which they find to be satisfactory for their uses!


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Aug 20, 2017 13:54 |  #6

Wilt wrote in post #18432555 (external link)
Photographers have been known to provide very low resolution previews and STILL the client prints images for themselves which they find to be satisfactory for their uses!

Especially at that price.




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Aug 20, 2017 14:35 |  #7

Wilt wrote in post #18432555 (external link)
Photographers have been known to provide very low resolution previews and STILL the client prints images for themselves which they find to be satisfactory for their uses!

I provided a friend with a bunch of thumbnails of a shoot I did for him as a favor. He never did pick up the photos. Later I was surprised he just used the thumbnails on his website. They were a bit small, but more or less did the trick. Some folks don't need much IQ.

There was no money involved, so it was no problem - it just surprised me that such low res pics were usable.


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Aug 20, 2017 15:05 |  #8

I had a guy take a 800px wide medium res web image & make what he said was "a great looking 8X10" print". I asked him to tell anyone who asked that I didn't print it.


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Aug 20, 2017 15:18 |  #9

Watermarks are like your house front door lock. It's there to keep honest people honest. For those interested in thievery, a watermark will not stop anyone just as your front door lock won't stop someone from wanting to get in.


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