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The wife refuses to give up the 56 1.2

 
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Aug 23, 2017 20:38 |  #16

Nice write up.

But the 70-200 doesn't do 280mm 2.8 w/ a 1.4x extendor which is where use mine alot. See I went 70-200 2.8 mk2 -> 300 2.8 IS V1 -> 120-300 2.8 OS -> 200 F2 IS w/ 1.4xIII

So far... it's fit my needs perfectly. The 56 1.2 is an amazing lens that I feel out performs the 85 Art. Better micro contrast and better colors (probably sensor at that point) but the 85 1.4 Art on FF still gives me a look that the cropper can't touch. The point for me of having a fuji and/or possibly sony is for travel... where I'm willing to make compromises...

I've had every 70-200 out there... I also shoot with the 400 2.8 IS V1 alot too. The 200 F2 simply is ahead of all three of those lenses in it's own unique way. But for me I use it 50/50 w/ the 1.4x extender... this was my "cheap" alternative 300 2.8 lens. So far it's working out great. Shooting indoor Recitals and other kid events having that F2 and going from 12,800 to 6,400 ISO makes a good difference.

The 135 1.8 Art is an awesome lens but I much prefer the 85 length. I've grown very fond of the 85/200 combo. Sure Canon needs to update the 200/2... it needs a slight weight reduction, 300 2.8 IS II optic quality and IS mode 3 as well but I still don't see the 200/2 being updated for another 3-4 years. Maybe Sigma will release a 200 1.8 art? That would be nice.

I shoot what I want when I want how I want.. The 200 lets me get what I want. If I want to move back I will if not then I shoot there. The 70-200 MK2 is an amazing lens too but it simply doesn't match the 200/2 ability to be at 2.8 @ 280mm which is important to me. I use the lens for alot of baseball and right now the fields I only need a 200-300 length. As my boy moves up then I'm moving to the 400 2.8 IS II and will probably swap the 200 out for the 70-200 at that point. Don't need two big honky lenses.

Something else to consider is the 200 F2 IS was the first lens in canon lineup to get "almost" the latest optics. It was released in 2008 next to the 800 5.8 IS which that body on the 800 now reflects the same body design in the 300/400/500/600/200-400. The 3/4/5/600 mk2 lenses were released ONLY 3 years later in 2011.

3 years means what? Ya we are still a ways away from a 200/2 replacement. Your really hard press to see a difference in optics between all the mk2 super whites and the 200/2 either. They are "very" close to the point you need charts to see anything.


5D4 |12mm 2.8 FE | 16-35L 2.8 III | Σ 35A | Σ 50A | Σ 85A | 200 F2 IS | 1.4xIII
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Aug 23, 2017 21:14 as a reply to Talley's post |  #17

As a former long term Canon user who tried a Sony A7R II, I would stick with the Fuji for travel if you value ergonomics and manual control of the camera. You will also find the native Sony lenses can be very expensive so another slippery slope. I am trying Fuji XT-2 as it seems to be the best all rounder right now. Mine showed up today and I'm amazed at the sharpness and colors coming out of this thing.


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Aug 23, 2017 21:22 |  #18

X-T20 suites me just fine... just want my own. Waiting to see whats up with the E3 and how that turns out. If it's a X100F with interchangable lenses I'll probably go that route.

Fuji lenses is the reason why I bought into it for the wife. The 24mp sensor is also the other reason... it's VERY close to the 5D4 and I'd say on par with the 5D3. I'm so completely sold on the 24MP sensor on the fuji and the video quality looks fantastic. The focusing needs improvement and if they release a X-T2s with IBIS then I'll be sold tenfold to get that body.

I'll still stick to the 5D4 for most local stuff but for travel you just cannot go wrong with a fuji system. Love the fuji lineup.

I also love that all my godox lights work with the fuji system now. Good stuff.


5D4 |12mm 2.8 FE | 16-35L 2.8 III | Σ 35A | Σ 50A | Σ 85A | 200 F2 IS | 1.4xIII
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Aug 23, 2017 22:19 as a reply to Talley's post |  #19

I'm considering buying the X-T20 for my daughter. She loves shooting black and white film, and I have finally convinced her to try the film simulations on the Fujifilm. I think the X-T20 with the kit lens will be the best place to start a new system.

The Godox compatibility is what finally pushed me over the edge to try mirrorless again. My kit came today from Adorama. Love the camera and lenses, but I had some exposure and auto zoom issues with the V860 II flash (Flashpoint R2 version), and then finally noticed that they sent me a micro 4/3 unit instead of a Fuji one, despite the box being correct. I also ordered a mini R2 flash which hopefully will arrive tomorrow.


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Aug 23, 2017 22:25 |  #20

actually rumors show there is X-T2s with IBIS... I'll have to buy that for the wife and then I'll take her X-T20. I very fond of the T20 size and it's features. Very happy and capable camera.

Now to figure out the 56mm situation... It'll be hard to get her to move to the 50/2. She "knows" about the 1.2 and likes what it does.


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Aug 23, 2017 22:32 |  #21

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Now to figure out the 56mm situation... It'll be hard to get her to move to the 50/2. She "knows" about the 1.2 and likes what it does.

I sense a plot of deception--the cornerstone of every committed union. Please let us know how that shakes out. ;-)a


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